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  • Oct 13, 2025
    Ghetto Lenny

    2013 was an amazing year for hip hop.

    One of the last years that traditional hip hop being huge

  • Oct 13, 2025
    Valentine

    it won’t be and it has to do with dudes like Drake in twitch chats calling young dudes like Kai “a goof” for not liking his stupid ass stream lmfao. today, for this reason, there’s no space to have critical conversations on the mainstream without it for some reason leading to beef or “just don’t listen bro” especially once you throw in stan culture becoming mainstream and accepted. 90% of Drake fans think this way now, it’s wild, where before you could enter a thread and discuss the lack of quality in certain aspects of an album or big up other aspects he should focus on more

    edit: like dude below me said, today, especially on social media, it matters more to “be cool” than it does to be the best. Back then, being the best was seen as being cool

    Social media, streaming services and late stage capitalism straight up killed art. Stan wars, charts and numbers obsession, the treatment of music as content to be consumed, the mocking of critical thinking and a***ysis, the death of debate and discussion (when It comes to purely music), playlisting which i think brings songs the most exposure, the short attention spam, tiktok short form content making people stop listening to full songs preferring the little 10 seconds catchy soundbites/cuts, the pimping of the artist that gets milked for a couple years of all they got and then thrown to the trash (by the labels and fans alike).
    This is all applicable to drake stans in here tbh lol, maybe thats why i don't bother much posting in music sxn besides smaller artists threads. They like the concept of drake more than the artist himself, and they're honestly a big part of the reason drake turned out this way.

    There is some resistance, Kendrick and drake's beef was the prime example (and i'd add the desperate attempt to elevate the frankly uninteresting and unimpressive Joey badass vs west coast beef), but its the minority in the grand scheme of things.

    Makes you wonder if hip hop becoming the biggest genre in the world was a good thing in the first place.