these fast food streaming movies are so bad already cant imagine how much cornier its gonna get once its all ai generated and this what yall rooting for
@op are you serious rn
If you think the first clip “looks like s***” you are 100% basing that on emotion because it objectively looks great, it’s indistinguishable from reality, you absolutely wouldn’t know if no one told you it was AI
Pop that digital cock out your mouth Jesus
yeah, you're right. a team/company of people creating 3D models in Maya or Blender, crafting textures in Photoshop, and animating the completed models via mocap (i.e. actors) or by hand is the same as some a****** with a genAI sub.
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I'm not talking about the skill that makes AI lol.
I'm talking about visual AI is literally the same purpose of CGI and Photoshop - just way faster and cheaper.
My comment was towards other dude acting like it's a whole new thing, which it isn't. Visual AI is actually perhaps the least amount of "advancements" AI can provide outside of the really abstract. Besides faster and cheaper work loads.
And don't worry about a Twitter user using a generic AI prompter. It means nothing outside of basically a hobby. It will not affect or go anywhere. And the AI programs that actual companies use, most of it is in house made that can be way more specific, or outsourcing the major engines that cost a lot of computing power that the average person does not have.
A person making a s*** post in visual form doesn't affect anything outside of being annoying and creating trailer hoaxes (which have also been a thing people have gotten bamboozled by before AI).
My point is AI overall in the visual arts isn't bringing anything new to the table outside of cheaper and faster workload - and most of it is already achievable with CGI that have already happened - and the unions have already barred the use of fully outsourcing their jobs thru AI for the next decade or 2.
That's what I mean by "it's not a big deal", AI is still s*** tho and it's still a s***ty thing. I don't want to misconstrued that.
I'm getting the vibe that some of these losers have weird beef with actors and are rooting for AI to replace them...as if these execs and studios would do any better squatting out AI films with AI actors
im saying bro. half of the time, the s*** they hate in film and tv came from some producer or manager note the creative team, i.e. the people actually doing the work, couldnt disregard. But with CEOS and managers at the helm, i'm sure only classics would be on the horizon
That’s not a bet you wanna take lol you’re right that its not on this level yet though
AI create a whole car towards your own body in the middle of the street my friend
@op are you serious rn
Aye man I’m just saying
the videos look awkward now but give it like 3 years or less of development and it’s gonna be scary out here for these actors
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I'm not talking about the skill that makes AI lol.
I'm talking about visual AI is literally the same purpose of CGI and Photoshop - just way faster and cheaper.
My comment was towards other dude acting like it's a whole new thing, which it isn't. Visual AI is actually perhaps the least amount of "advancements" AI can provide outside of the really abstract. Besides faster and cheaper work loads.
And don't worry about a Twitter user using a generic AI prompter. It means nothing outside of basically a hobby. It will not affect or go anywhere. And the AI programs that actual companies use, most of it is in house made that can be way more specific, or outsourcing the major engines that cost a lot of computing power that the average person does not have.
A person making a s*** post in visual form doesn't affect anything outside of being annoying and creating trailer hoaxes (which have also been a thing people have gotten bamboozled by before AI).
My point is AI overall in the visual arts isn't bringing anything new to the table outside of cheaper and faster workload - and most of it is already achievable with CGI that have already happened - and the unions have already barred the use of fully outsourcing their jobs thru AI for the next decade or 2.
That's what I mean by "it's not a big deal", AI is still s*** tho and it's still a s***ty thing. I don't want to misconstrued that.
what I'm saying is genAI companies selling access to people's likeness, voices, skills and talents that they've stolen with the sole purpose of replacing them in the entire creative process IS new. to downplay this wholesale theft as just them making things "faster and cheaper" is the problem here as its only cheaper for execs, the very people making an unrelenting push for it to be accepted industry-wide. CGI isn't cheap or fast like you try to describe it. just look at movie credits and you'll see hundreds of people, paid employees, integral to the process which is why they want to cut these studios out of the equation in the first place with genAI. hell, the fact that artists and actors have to constantly fight these corps to have them not add their faces, voices and performances to a LLM or having to settle for a cut-rate because a studio would rather use their facsimile should say plenty
People was hating on cgi, and then thanos made a Billie.
Over course ai looks bad. Give it some time.
what I'm saying is genAI companies selling access to people's likeness, voices, skills and talents that they've stolen with the sole purpose of replacing them in the entire creative process IS new. to downplay this wholesale theft as just them making things "faster and cheaper" is the problem here as its only cheaper for execs, the very people making an unrelenting push for it to be accepted industry-wide. CGI isn't cheap or fast like you try to describe it. just look at movie credits and you'll see hundreds of people, paid employees, integral to the process which is why they want to cut these studios out of the equation in the first place with genAI. hell, the fact that artists and actors have to constantly fight these corps to have them not add their faces, voices and performances to a LLM or having to settle for a cut-rate because a studio would rather use their facsimile should say plenty
I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying
I didn't say CGI is cheap or fast, I said the opposite, I said the AI purpose is to make the process CGI governs way faster and cheaper. My point was AI isn't doing anything inherently in the visual space, it's just doing what already exists way faster and way cheaper. Which again, was in response to the other user, who at first was acting like it's all new.
But to your other points:
The point of likeness being sold: Companies are not selling likenesses (yet) to any major actual profession firms as of now. Film is already protecting itself from it, and it's also a legal headache (some of which have already lost such as the art AI machine using dead cancer kids drawings from Magic the Gathering fundraiser charity in their machine, they got sued and lost - same with a vocal video game company/. Now I do agree the prompt generative online AI machines that provide these things to anyone is f***ed up. But that isn't major scale, and imo chalked up to a bootleg market type of thing. There are allegories you can have to other existent things, but I do agree it being so ready available of likeness to an issue. Which is where copyright, litigation and suing will come into play as it already is starting too
To the point of easy made assets: I disagree. There are already many ways of slop assets in many fields. Some that people don't even recognize. 3D modeling has tons of stores and templates for plug n use models and animations that are used in on a professional level as either a starter base or to streamline basic things such as grass and trees - hand waving and walking - that you just load in and easy to tweak if need be, but there are also in depth things - look up the site sketchfab.com to see an example of what I mean. We all know music has pre-made loops, MIDIs, and presets. Film and music also have sound libraries that have endless of sounds that take from Foley and sample recording engineers. And CGI has templates, pre made effects and rendering - same with video editing. And all these things also have Algorithms especially gaming, which is "basically" AI before AI that is sued mainly for streamlining and variations that's been around for decades.
To me, every medium has allegories to AI-like things that are done even at a better level than current AI. With one exception, drawing doesn't have any of this. That is the one inside of the industry that will and is getting completely f***ed while the other mediums already have some of this integrated and co-existing. Drawing n graphic design is also unfortunately the easiest for AI to do, and especially for the average person.
Overall tho I do think worry is justified and has merit of concern. My point overall tho was that speaking only to the visual side of AI that this isn't anything new overall in Film itself and Film has already done foul af AI-like things before AI with CGI such as de-aging, cloning actors etc. AI is still doing all of this. Meanwhile, for example, recreating someone else's voice is something truly completely new in music.
My other point is that there are already things in place to wrangle AI to a degree - Film actually being the most protected so far thankfully due to their unions that actually give a s***.
And my final point is that people thinking everything is "so real" is not new, it happened with CGI and Photoshop which older people less exposed to it still think it's "so real" while those exposed to it more their brain has literally developed ways to see telltale signs that it's fake. And why you get people seeing older CGI can see through it so much easier than those that are older. Same will and already IS happening with AI. And just like CGI is getting harder and harder to be convincing to the modern audience, same will and again, IS happening with AI.
It is a literal neurological thing that your brain develops because are brains are based off of pattern recognition as humans and your brains in its survival part of its usage is sussing out of what it sees is truly there or not.
But yeah, legal litigation and market policing on top of the natural brain development to sus out real things from fake is why its "not a big deal" overall in the bigger picture - especially regarding Film which is way harder for AI to replicate and keep together, involves hella processing, has a union that gives a s***, and already has similar allegories.
AI is still a s***ty thing tho as a replacement and a violation of personal likeness rights. And AI being used as the whole canvas instead of just a tool is literally a bad idea that will almost always end up in a low tier product. And along a personal note: it really annoys me when someone opts to use AI for literally no reason and it's being used in ways that can be done way better the "traditional" way. A lot of it is just wave riding and alramism which pisses me off.
Aye man I’m just saying
the videos look awkward now but give it like 3 years or less of development and it’s gonna be scary out here for these actors
lol bro ain’t no ai gon be on the level of Denzel Washington or Tom cruise.
And if it does it will be because media literacy is in a free fall n brain rot content is becoming more of the norm
Yes, I do believe that anyone who is fooled by this, enjoys this, or supports this in any way, shape, or form is absolutely 100% less evolved and a worse human being than I am
Yes, I do believe that anyone who is fooled by this, enjoys this, or supports this in any way, shape, or form is absolutely 100% less evolved and a worse human being than I am
They also don't get b****es
If you think the first clip “looks like s***” you are 100% basing that on emotion because it objectively looks great, it’s indistinguishable from reality, you absolutely wouldn’t know if no one told you it was AI
Mouth doesn’t match the words
The last one with the balding cigar dude was the smoothest one
The first one isn't even the best one of the comp in op LMAO
Facts. If bro said the second one, people wouldn't have anything to say. Nothing weird about it
By the time it can seamlessly make a good movie without the weird mouth not matching or weird artifacts we’ll have bigger problems
Even if thats like 2032 lol
Same for AI and visual art
For now this gonna probably mostly be used with music videos and … “other stuff”
No it will be fantastic. People can make their dream movies and quality will always be important. Right now a lot of whats been put out by studios is garbage and slop. Good writers will win