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  • Updated Jun 10

    Actually saw the list a couple of weeks ago but it just struck me how absurd it is, and how indicative of how conspiracy theorists may have actually had a point about mainstream media.

    Is Jay Z an excellent songwriter, yes.

    Is he the greatest songwriter in hip-hop history? F*** no.

    Is he the greatest songwriter from his era? F*** no.

    Eminem
    Pac
    Drake
    Ye
    Nelly
    X
    Nas
    The-Dream
    Neyo
    Jermaine Dupri

    Money had to have changed hands, and it's just hilarious how little credibility these previously respected publications now have

  • 1996 BRL ✊🏿
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    an eminem stan making this thread
    surely there's no way you could be biased

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    Aisosa
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    Actually saw the list a couple of weeks ago but it just struck me how absurd it is, and how indicative of how conspiracy theorists may have actually had a point about mainstream media.

    Is Jay Z an excellent songwriter, yes.

    Is he the greatest songwriter in hip-hop history? F*** no.

    Is he the greatest songwriter from his era? F*** no.

    Eminem
    Pac
    Drake
    Ye
    Nelly
    X
    Nas
    The-Dream
    Neyo
    Jermaine Dupri

    Money had to have changed hands, and it's just hilarious how little credibility these previously respected publications now have

    Ye?
    X as XXXtentacion?

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    1996 BRL

    an eminem stan making this thread
    surely there's no way you could be biased

    Do you think Jay Z is a better songwriter than Eminem?

  • Jun 10
    Pokerking4128

    Ye?
    X as XXXtentacion?

    DMX

  • songwriting is not just a technical skill, but Jay-Z has written so many great songs and hooks and is arguably the greatest rapper of all time too, and he has much more interesting subject matter than Eminem over his career

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    Hov makes it look/sound easy and until post 4:44 never sounded like he was trying too hard while also delivering classic verses and having the lore/perception of writing it all in his head

    Eminem can be very choppy and wordy hence his coffee pot being awfully hot

  • Jun 10
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    Jay has the edge as a songwriter over Em because he can write hooks consistently well. Em has some classic ones, but Jay has him beat there pretty easily.

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    Including Em and Ye in your list is a very interesting choice lmao

  • Jun 10
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    raps

    Hov makes it look/sound easy and until post 4:44 never sounded like he was trying too hard while also delivering classic verses and having the lore/perception of writing it all in his head

    Eminem can be very choppy and wordy hence his coffee pot being awfully hot

    Unfortunately, making it sound easy is not a core component of good songwriting, I'm afraid

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    As corny as Jay is I would rather listen to him over Eminem tbh lol Eminem has some really good hits but his voice starts irritating me like crazy after a while once you start going into his discog song by song

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    Sell

    As corny as Jay is I would rather listen to him over Eminem tbh lol Eminem has some really good hits but his voice starts irritating me like crazy after a while once you start going into his discog song by song

    We're not talking about his voice though

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    Eminem hella overrated

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    Aisosa

    We're not talking about his voice though

    I know I’m just saying but to answer your question he is better than Em

  • Jun 10
    Noir

    Jay has the edge as a songwriter over Em because he can write hooks consistently well. Em has some classic ones, but Jay has him beat there pretty easily.

    Want to go hook for hook?

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    Sell

    I know I’m just saying but to answer your question he is better than Em

    As a songwriter?

    Want to go song for song?

  • Jun 10
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    Aisosa

    As a songwriter?

    Want to go song for song?

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

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    True brilliance right here

  • Jun 10
    Knx

    Eminem hella overrated

    Jay Z hella overated if people thing hes a better songwriter than Terius Nash

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    Sell

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

    I mean, I've got time...

  • Jun 10
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    Aisosa

    I mean, I've got time...

    Bruh nobody trying to list some f***ing mid I’m good on that

  • Jun 10
    Jai

    True brilliance right here

    !https://youtu.be/BOI8OGIy6cA?si=C2dforlIF5ia3zgj

    I raise you

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    Sell

    Bruh nobody trying to list some f***ing mid I’m good on that

    Suuureee

  • Jun 10
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    Aisosa

    Suuureee

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    Because he is.

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