Jun 3, 2022·1 replySEGA GOONBasically the evolutionary link between dub music (electronic successor of reggae/dancehall) and garage/grime. You can hear the Caribbean influence more clearly than you would later in garage, but at the same time it has more emphasis on breakbeats (especially the Amen breakbeat). You can also hear how dubstep developed out of this later. Jungle was primarily late 80s, early 90s I would say.
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAaa6SJP1mo!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5NMTyAuPMk!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Cos3AWBMkMostly correct but slight correction. Jungle wasn’t really a proper thing until about 92-93. Before that it was hardcore music which had a lot more pianos and stabs and is pretty distinct although there is a lot of overlap
Hardcore split off into jungle and happy hardcore basically and jungle became its own thing entirely around 94
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- Jun 3, 2022·1 replyMyBallsAndMyWord
Mostly correct but slight correction. Jungle wasn’t really a proper thing until about 92-93. Before that it was hardcore music which had a lot more pianos and stabs and is pretty distinct although there is a lot of overlap
Hardcore split off into jungle and happy hardcore basically and jungle became its own thing entirely around 94
Hardcore breakbeat or something yeah. Jungle proper was like M-Beat stuff, early 90s, you're right.
Happy hardcore is funny as frick. Music for drunk Dutch guys.
BLACK ☭Jun 3, 2022·1 replythis typa rap does not sound gangsta to me. it's cool music but nothing about this is harder than American rap. you niggas emulate us not the other way around
- BLACK ☭Jun 3, 2022
skep is the best of you tho
Jun 3, 2022·2 repliesSEGA GOONHip-hop had classic albums way before any of the UK MCs did. By the late 80s, hip-hop albums were going above and beyond. Since the UK MCs were all in the electronic scene and more focused on singles (since it was for raves and clubs), the first classic albums there only came out by the 2000s.
The fact that it came out later just strengthens the argument that it inspired from Hip Hop and is a form of the culture.
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One thing I only appreciated recently was how advanced the drum programming patterns were in 90s UK music, whereas US hip-hop still had boom bap beats (I love boom bap too but it took a while for US hip-hop to get more complex drums).
- Jun 3, 2022·1 replySEGA GOON
Hardcore breakbeat or something yeah. Jungle proper was like M-Beat stuff, early 90s, you're right.
Happy hardcore is funny as frick. Music for drunk Dutch guys.
Yeah lol happy hardcore is one thing I just can’t get down with, same with donk music. Dutch people and Russians got weird ass taste in rave music. I should try to give happy hardcore another shot maybe tho
Late 80s early 90s hardcore is sublime tho
Jun 3, 2022TragedyBerlusconiif i gotta go broke to pay for repaired tendons best hope i got some decent music to listen to after
One of the best posts I've ever seen on this forum
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The fact that it came out later just strengthens the argument that it inspired from Hip Hop and is a form of the culture.
Read through the thread dawg.
Jun 3, 2022·1 replyBLACKthis typa rap does not sound gangsta to me. it's cool music but nothing about this is harder than American rap. you niggas emulate us not the other way around
Its not gangsta rap so why would it
- Jun 3, 2022SEGA GOON
Read through the thread dawg.
No thanks girlfriend, read thru my posts
- Jun 3, 2022SEGA GOON
Read through the thread dawg.
Hip hop has over 30 subgenres and Grime is one
of them 
Jun 3, 2022·1 replyDelete this nowThe fact that it came out later just strengthens the argument that it inspired from Hip Hop and is a form of the culture.
Literally no said it wasnt influenced by hip hop lol
- BLACK ☭Jun 3, 2022·1 replyrather late
Its not gangsta rap so why would it
gangsta. street. hard. if you read what i posted you would understand what im sayin
- BLACK ☭Jun 3, 2022
if not then bugger off
- Jun 3, 2022·3 repliesOblivion X
Literally no said it wasnt influenced by hip hop lol
Hip Hop CULTURE is NOT A GENRE. It is MORE than that. Holy s*** maybe we need to start there
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- Jun 3, 2022MyBallsAndMyWord
Yeah lol happy hardcore is one thing I just can’t get down with, same with donk music. Dutch people and Russians got weird ass taste in rave music. I should try to give happy hardcore another shot maybe tho
Late 80s early 90s hardcore is sublime tho
I don't know how people can look at these massive web of genres and then claim grime is just hip-hop. The evolution is totally different, the predecessors and cousins and everything. Boy in the Corner by Dizzee probably has more connections to Aphex Twin than to Nas.
Jun 3, 2022·1 replygrime is as much a culture as it is a genre, people itt getting it messed up saying it doesnt have hip hop culture and stuff. it has its own
- Jun 3, 2022·2 repliesDelete this now
Hip Hop CULTURE is NOT A GENRE. It is MORE than that. Holy s*** maybe we need to start there
Grime does not come from hip-hop culture, but UK rap does.
- Jun 3, 2022·1 replyBLACK
gangsta. street. hard. if you read what i posted you would understand what im sayin
Yeah cuz its not hiphop and u associate that street sound with hiphop
- Jun 3, 2022·1 reply
Hip-hop is stolen Jamaican culture if you wanna argue this way lmao
