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  • BLACK
    Jun 3, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    Caribbean music to dub, 60s, 70s
    Dub to breakbeat, hardcore breakbeat, 80s
    That to jungle, drum & bass, 80s, 90s
    Those to garage, 90s, 00s
    Garage to grime, 90s, 00s

    There's a clear evolution from the 70s all the way to grime appearing in the late 90s early 00s. We posted a bunch of examples ITT.

    Every single of these genres has MCs too. MCing didn't begin with hip-hop.

    This doesn't disprove what I'm saying at all and I never denied any of this. You're just blatantly leaving off the influence that US hip hop has on grime. Which took off in the 70s, which gave grime plenty of time to take elements of that into itself

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    Delete this now

    Yea im whitewashing it as black american culture

    You are whitewashing a Caribbean cultural influence, yes

  • Jun 3, 2022
    KILLA CAM 300

    But it is tho google it hip hop got over 30 subgenres

    Okay google said it so it must be true

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    You are whitewashing a Caribbean cultural influence, yes

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    BLACK

    This doesn't disprove what I'm saying at all and I never denied any of this. You're just blatantly leaving off the influence that US hip hop has on grime. Which took off in the 70s, which gave grime plenty of time to take elements of that into itself

    Grime is far more influenced by the genres I have stated than anything the US has produced.

    UK hip-hop was more popular than grime for many years, that is a different genre.

  • Jun 3, 2022
    KILLA CAM 300

    Google hip hop subgenres rn

    If u google trap artists, travis scott shows up too lol

  • Jun 3, 2022
    Delete this now

    Where do you see hiphop celebrating its carribean roots?

  • Jun 3, 2022
    KILLA CAM 300

    Imagine mfs that made west coast gangsta rap started saying “we not hip hop”

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    BLACK

    This doesn't disprove what I'm saying at all and I never denied any of this. You're just blatantly leaving off the influence that US hip hop has on grime. Which took off in the 70s, which gave grime plenty of time to take elements of that into itself

    Hip hop influenced grime.

    That doesnt mean it's a product or subgenre of hip hop

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    UK hip-hop is very much a sub-genre of hip-hop.

    UK drill is also a sub-genre of hip-hop, although with some grime influences.

    Grime itself is not a sub-genre of hip-hop and not the same as UK hip-hop or UK drill.

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    they also don't listen to Dave who's basically the best rapper out there

  • BLACK
    Jun 3, 2022
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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    But you literally can’t talk about grime without talking about those genres because grime grew directly out of them

    You’re ignoring 35 years of history for literally zero reason lol

    Yes you literally can. You keep trying to make it seem like I'm saying they don't exist when I'm not. You niggas are going through hoop after hoop rn to admit the facts that I'm stating. it's crazy

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    UK hip-hop is very much a sub-genre of hip-hop.

    UK drill is also a sub-genre of hip-hop, although with some grime influences.

    Grime itself is not a sub-genre of hip-hop and not the same as UK hip-hop or UK drill.

    UK drill with grime inspired beats>>>>

  • Jun 3, 2022

    imagine self-quoting your own braindead post

  • BLACK
    Jun 3, 2022
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    rather late

    I guess it wouldnt exist in the same form without hiphop true
    But that doest mean its just a subgenre like trap or drill is

    It kinda does. It's a wide wide reaching genre. it's not a bad thing idk why yall act like it is.

  • Spot on. And instead of acknowledging that it sounds good they act like it's bad.. just cuz it didn't originate in the us

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    blackpink is a hip hop collective to yall with the logic you guys have

  • Jun 3, 2022
    patatje

    blackpink is a hip hop collective to yall with the logic you guys have

    Red Hot Chili Peppers does hip-hop

  • Delete this now

    I blocked that guy a long time ago for something unrelated, but tell him I said YES metal was inspired by the beatles. HERE IS THE CREATOR OF HEAVY METAL HIMSELF https://rockcelebrities.net/rob-halford-confirms-judas-priest-was-influenced-by-the-beatles-and-explains-it/

    Nobody’s denying influence, it’s just not the primary influence

    Do you consider metal to be a sub genre of beat music lol?

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    We had internet

  • Jun 3, 2022
    rather late

    UK drill with grime inspired beats>>>>

    I'm not even a huge grime fan but these fellas really are oversimplfying things

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    Mango

    We had internet

    Did you have access to London pirate radio broadcasts of garage groups MCing for hours straight every weekend night?

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    rather late

    UK drill with grime inspired beats>>>>

    kwengface the best for this

  • Jun 3, 2022
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    kwengface the best for this

  • BLACK
    Jun 3, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    Grime is far more influenced by the genres I have stated than anything the US has produced.

    UK hip-hop was more popular than grime for many years, that is a different genre.

    Grime is far more influenced by the genres I have stated than anything the US has produced.

    Sure you can say that (I don't agree but go for it) but it's still influenced by it heavily. (Not saying what you listed doesn't outweigh hip hop's influence)

    UK hip-hop was more popular than grime for many years, that is a different genre.

    But neither were nearly as popular as US Hip hop. And both those things you named are influenced by it. That's all I'm saying and you niggas are losing it

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