can an american answer why yall love guns so much
but oh no my first 2nd amendment right!! not my freedom!!! oh noooo
we dont actually like them that much its just the nra is arguably the most successful organization at lobbying politicians
Conservatives calling her a domestic terrorists
F***ing idiots
If anyone is terrorizing people it’s ICE
is there any sense in reasoning with these mfs anymore? it feels like they are beyond saving.
the woman was told to get out of the car. she tried to flee. the cop stepped in front of her car. she kept driving.
this was not good by the woman. it was very clearly illegal and all politics aside they were in her rights to arrest their for fleeing a traffic stop or whatever u want to call it- fleeing when told to get out of her car.
however that does not mean deadly force was warranted. i honestly dont know what the laws are for whether cops can shoot someone in the head rather than just stepping out of the way of their car but i dont believe this was a just use of lethal force. i doubt cops are trained to step in front of cars to try and stop them, especially when its not like a terrorist or murderer or anything but just a citizen who hasn't really done anything.
ERO deportation officers (which I'm assuming this guy was) are sworn police, but can't just stop someone for local and state statutes, including general obstruction of justice, which this may not have even been considered in most places (it looks like she was literally just driving). They are ONLY granted Title 8 authority.
Unless the person who was driving the car was a subject of a deportation effort (administrative warrant), they can't legally detain that driver. Which includes stopping them, and especially includes trying to pull them out their own vehicle.
Regardless, the shooting was completely unjustified. Stepping in front of a vehicle is generally considered a police-created exigency (read Kentucky v. King as an example supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/563/452). There's actually a lot of case law that rules deadly force against a moving vehicle that is not actively being used as a weapon as unconstitutional. (Scott v. Harris is a landmark case, but also Perea v. Baca, Baynes v. Cleland, and Estate of Cherry v. City of Hamilton off the top of my head)
This is just talking legality though. Don't even know how someone can morally justify any of this without being a deeply evil person
we dont actually like them that much its just the nra is arguably the most successful organization at lobbying politicians
Depends where in the country you are, in the northeast its kind of a whatever subject but the second you go to like texas they worship those bad boys
It’s kinda sad it took a white woman being killed for people to finally stop putting up with ICE
It’s kinda sad it took a white woman being killed for people to finally stop putting up with ICE
Idk if this switched people over
Idk if this switched people over
Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE
Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE
But we have
They won’t care till it’s them or their loved ones
It’s kinda sad it took a white woman being killed for people to finally stop putting up with ICE
When you get your politics from Marvel movies
Depends where in the country you are, in the northeast its kind of a whatever subject but the second you go to like texas they worship those bad boys
everytime theres a school shooting in texas the locals plead for gun control
Let’s see if it happens again
This kinda the same argument racists use to justify police killing black people unjustifiably. “Why didn’t they just comply?”
Thank you
Not complying is never a reason to take someone's life
Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE
Litterally all ICE protest there have been last year, has been for the brown victims of ICE
Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE
You didn’t see all the protests in cali and Oregon and Minnesota before? A lot of people sick of that s***
ERO deportation officers (which I'm assuming this guy was) are sworn police, but can't just stop someone for local and state statutes, including general obstruction of justice, which this may not have even been considered in most places (it looks like she was literally just driving). They are ONLY granted Title 8 authority.
Unless the person who was driving the car was a subject of a deportation effort (administrative warrant), they can't legally detain that driver. Which includes stopping them, and especially includes trying to pull them out their own vehicle.
Regardless, the shooting was completely unjustified. Stepping in front of a vehicle is generally considered a police-created exigency (read Kentucky v. King as an example https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/563/452/). There's actually a lot of case law that rules deadly force against a moving vehicle that is not actively being used as a weapon as unconstitutional. (Scott v. Harris is a landmark case, but also Perea v. Baca, Baynes v. Cleland, and Estate of Cherry v. City of Hamilton off the top of my head)
This is just talking legality though. Don't even know how someone can morally justify any of this without being a deeply evil person
This is good to know, but we're talking about Trump's admin here. Multiple layers of government agencies basically covering for each other in broad daylight.
Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE
February 1st 2025, Atlanta
February 21st 2025, LA
June 11th 2025, NYC
February 6th 2025, Houston
ERO deportation officers (which I'm assuming this guy was) are sworn police, but can't just stop someone for local and state statutes, including general obstruction of justice, which this may not have even been considered in most places (it looks like she was literally just driving). They are ONLY granted Title 8 authority.
Unless the person who was driving the car was a subject of a deportation effort (administrative warrant), they can't legally detain that driver. Which includes stopping them, and especially includes trying to pull them out their own vehicle.
Regardless, the shooting was completely unjustified. Stepping in front of a vehicle is generally considered a police-created exigency (read Kentucky v. King as an example https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/563/452/). There's actually a lot of case law that rules deadly force against a moving vehicle that is not actively being used as a weapon as unconstitutional. (Scott v. Harris is a landmark case, but also Perea v. Baca, Baynes v. Cleland, and Estate of Cherry v. City of Hamilton off the top of my head)
This is just talking legality though. Don't even know how someone can morally justify any of this without being a deeply evil person
Thank you, very helpful!!
Such a f***ing loser
I hate this guy
You didn’t see all the protests in cali and Oregon and Minnesota before? A lot of people sick of that s***
Not to this scale, obviously there have been protests before
February 1st 2025, Atlanta
February 21st 2025, LA
June 11th 2025, NYC
February 6th 2025, Houston
These are all tiny fractions of how many marching in Minneapolis and nyc right now
These are all tiny fractions of how many marching in Minneapolis and nyc right now
You wrong af bro let it go
These are all tiny fractions of how many marching in Minneapolis and nyc right now
The fact is it's still happening, our job is to support agitation no matter the scale. The more people get involved the better, we're dealing with fascism here. There's no time to trip up over disproportionate outrage.