This guys been jealous of drake his whole career. He hates toronto

anyone not accepting this is just insane tbh

beyond Drake, those others are arguably better but they’re all up there

As much as I despise Lupe as a person, I can’t deny that man’s rap abilities, he’s one of the ones and could actually compete with Dot

I’ma keep it real with you… after just finishing Hip-Hop is History by Questlove, this definitely isn’t the case. Rappers been having writers since the 80s

Where do you rank Ye as far as technical rapping?

I feel the opposite

"In Retrospect" this was obvious as soon as it dropped

Hmmmmm

From 2004-2012, strong A

2013-2016, B to B-

2016 to now, somewhere around a C to C+

Overall, I’d give him a solid B

this is a beef where everyone loses tbh

drake
bino
the audience
hip hop
music
humanity

No way, y’all having Drake overall lyrically better than Ye.

At best, Ye is B+

Either you grade super harsh or you just don’t give any credit to anyone who ever had a writer ever

Kanye is no lower than a B- overall for his entire career

You’ve gotta take into account Ye’s ENTIRE career

2004-2016 is only half of his career, there’s still the past 9 years where he’s been absolutely mediocre as an MC

Out of The Life of Pablo, Ye, Kids See Ghosts, JESUS IS KING, Donda, Vultures 1 and Vultures 2 there are like less than ten standout Kanye verses. He became a full-time curator post-Yeezus

Personally I'm giving Kanye a C+ overall cause that decline in ability from 2016 to now is insane. Also gotta give him a knock because he's had writers.

I say it all the time, after Yeezus it was all downhill. Prior to that, I'd have him at a B.

I mean yes

Ye has never really been known for his lyricism anyway. His draw has always been his production

Aite, if I take in Drake first 3 years (2006-2008), he’s a B- rapper.

2009-15, he’s B+

2016-present: B to C.

Drake has never had lines that made me drop my seat like Lupe

nah I disagree, he was doing hella spoken word as well

You niggas trippin

I don’t think there was ever a period in time where people were attracted to Kanye West albums primarily for his lyricism

Kanye has never really been a lyricist even ye at his most lyrical (LR) isnt that far off from drake at his most lyrical (NWTS-IYRTITL). Thing is ye just has better overall subject matter

*kee nigga dont put words in my mouth

For Drake, I’d go:

2009-2015: A+

2016-2022: B+

2023-now: B-

And yeah just because he not Lupe don’t mean he’s still not an A overall, it’s a wide spectrum

He’s more charismatic and humorous too