I wasn’t around then but Russia is not condemn more now than Israel and its partly cause Ukraine doing a decent job at defending itself but still Russia is using phosphorus bombs and carpet bombing multiple Ukraine cities

I was reading back thru the thread to see what y'all were talking about

take a deep breath my son

Russia-Ukraine has some of the lowest civilian-military death ratios in the history of modern war and most of them happened the first couple years that’s why it’s died down. Then there’s the fact the average Americans attention span just gives out

Israel killed multiple times more Gaza civilians within a few months than Russia and Ukraine both did in the first few years. Outrage is warranted and pales to what it really should be. Didn’t come with bans, sanctions, frozen accounts, etc…

You’re coming across like you’re new to these conflicts…

Ngl he actually sounds like he’s in the 9th grade. Some of this has to be trolling if not

damn i missed our most recent rethard exhibition already too bad

probs just from Estonia or some bullshit, not the sharpest folks over there and super cucked to the west

Israel backed by the US is the biggest terrorist state in the region and just committed a genocide in Palestine (which countless international organizations stated was the case) for one thing so lets remember that

Second, technically right now was supposed to be a 2 week "ceasefire" where the terms could be finalized and there be some sort of agreement

However it fell apart immediately in large part due to 'miscommunication' about where Israel stands in the ceasefire convo, or maybe even outright lies, who knows,

the US was using negotiations as a form of misdirection right before they attacked Iran earlier this year, so why would anyone trust them in the first place.

But as far as the Strait goes, I don't know if we can definitively say what the full situation is at any given moment, it seems to be developing and changing by the day, it was supposed to open up under those conditions in the plans they put forth but the ceasefire was violated like a few hours in.

Not sure exactly what news material you're looking at that has you convinced Iran lost, when the US has not met really any of its goals

And maybe its cliche at this point to say but the burden is on the invading force of accomplishing their military goals to be able to say they "won" the war. I don't think they've done that, even if there has been a lot of death and damage to the Iranian people and cities

Saw that avy gone in real time

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I just made my effort post fml

F*** you mods @sab come on u couldn't have given me 5 more minutes pause

Bro just had some libslop still digesting was all. Happens

Saying “terrorist proxy groups” always the first sign to disengage

bro straight up came from school to post this

Being pro-Ukraine has been the standard / official position of most Western and European governments and consequently their corporations since the invasion. The reaction was immediate. Economic sanctions etc.

Which actually has an effect on geopolitics instead of "what‘s the peoples opinion on x and y" since their own governments don‘t give af about that. Ofc progressives in the West would have to go way harder for Palestine than they would do for Ukraine. Germany doesn’t even recognise that there is a f***ing genocide

Oh, he’s gone already?

snowboy would’ve started banging on my front door if i waited any longer

Agree to a ceasefire, not enforce. We know that already

A diplomatic agreement officially ratified by Lebanon/Israel will hold weight internationally, if it does happen

There was a leak of Israel’s conditions for a ceasefire which involves partitioning Lebanon into three zones which seems like a non-starter tbh

It’s funny how the wording differences say so much

Iran is a terrorist country vs Israel is war crime country

Iran kill their own people, build proxy terrorist groups to cause terror in other countries vs what Israel did to Gaza is inhumane

I put the onus on myself for being late to the party.

But otherwise. Smh. I get no time with these treasures of the site.

u stay telling.

Hmmmm America and Israel?