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  • Feb 13, 2025
    SEPTEMBER99

    "It's clear the stuff he's trying to do is to further piss of Jewish people just because he feels like he can."

    I think this is clearly true.

    I also think he has a genuine and passionate political belief in the statements he made in that instagram post.

    to use dated social justice terminology, he will not be tone policed, and he will police the tone of anyone addressing him. the white power structure makes this demand, why shouldn't he?

    i really do think it could go well if media figures were willing to communicate with him respectfully.

    there's this idea on liberal social media lately that it is discursively effective to "meet fire with fire". i think it's just resulted in white liberals behaving so reprehensibly that they've become indistinguishable from republicans or nazis.

  • Quas
    Feb 13, 2025

    He's just really making it hard to separate the art from the artist at this point.

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    the point of ye's current mode is that HE WILL NOT BREAK THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE

    if you address him like a bully, he will bully back.

    i'm begging someone to address him respectfully.

  • HBDUSA 🇺🇸
    Feb 13, 2025
    SEPTEMBER99

    the point of ye's current mode is that HE WILL NOT BREAK THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE

    if you address him like a bully, he will bully back.

    i'm begging someone to address him respectfully.

    Like John Legend did? And had his private text messages screenshotted and put on Twitter?

    It’s happened. You can’t tell him nothing. It’s over. He will never get better. Move on.

  • Feb 13, 2025

    paraphrasing irritating reddit comments but:

    anyone saying "if he wants to be respected he should..." is wrong. we need to respect people on a fundamental level.

    these reddit comments sound like fox news anchors telling black guys to pull up their pants.

  • Feb 13, 2025
    wolves

    He really is a different person now. I really believe he used to be a good person. I’ve listened to hours and hours of his interviews, especially from that 2010-2016 era, and it always felt like he had a strong moral code. His vision was always about bettering and improving humanity through creativity, whether it be music, clothing, design, art etc. Yes he was arrogant but moreso through self belief and always being told he couldn’t do things.

    How the hell did he become such an awful person? Well I guess we know how, years of unmedicated mental illness, substance abuse… but it’s still so sad. Used to idolise the guy.

  • Feb 13, 2025
    SEPTEMBER99

    the point of ye's current mode is that HE WILL NOT BREAK THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE

    if you address him like a bully, he will bully back.

    i'm begging someone to address him respectfully.

    Yea nobody has ever came at ye with respect

    Please, you just making excuses for him cause you love his music and what you thought he represents I been there

  • Feb 13, 2025
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    SEPTEMBER99

    "It's clear the stuff he's trying to do is to further piss of Jewish people just because he feels like he can."

    I think this is clearly true.

    I also think he has a genuine and passionate political belief in the statements he made in that instagram post.

    to use dated social justice terminology, he will not be tone policed, and he will police the tone of anyone addressing him. the white power structure makes this demand, why shouldn't he?

    you cant say super vile and disturbing things nonstop and expect there to be no reaction lol thats not tone policing

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    wolves

    He really is a different person now. I really believe he used to be a good person. I’ve listened to hours and hours of his interviews, especially from that 2010-2016 era, and it always felt like he had a strong moral code. His vision was always about bettering and improving humanity through creativity, whether it be music, clothing, design, art etc. Yes he was arrogant but moreso through self belief and always being told he couldn’t do things.

    How the hell did he become such an awful person? Well I guess we know how, years of unmedicated mental illness, substance abuse… but it’s still so sad. Used to idolise the guy.

    I think it's also all the years of being hated. It's a snowball effect. His meanness is a shield against his insecurity. The psychological toll of reflecting on the 50 car pile-up in his wake is too great, so he has to encase himself in a cocoon of cope.

  • Feb 13, 2025
    Jonboi

    I think it's also all the years of being hated. It's a snowball effect. His meanness is a shield against his insecurity. The psychological toll of reflecting on the 50 car pile-up in his wake is too great, so he has to encase himself in a cocoon of cope.

    yup

    wayyy past the point where you can spin this as some kind of bold political statement

    its just a very mentally ill person coping in increasingly worse ways

  • Feb 13, 2025
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    Tkken

    you cant say super vile and disturbing things nonstop and expect there to be no reaction lol thats not tone policing

    i really have the Lyor Cohen letter/deadnaming discourse in mind when i say this.

    it's frustrating to me to pretend to speak to someone compassionately while disrespecting them right off the bat. especially when Ye has referred to Kanye as his "slave name" and the immediate discussion is about neo-slavery in the record industry.

    i think it is rhetorically ineffective for someone interested in communicating something to insult the person they are speaking to. in general that's my frustration with the response to Ye's rants. i think this could be an incredible opportunity for education about antisemitism. Instead, I believe the silencing tactics being deployed are lending credence to antisemitic conspiracy theorists.

  • Feb 13, 2025
    wolves

    He really is a different person now. I really believe he used to be a good person. I’ve listened to hours and hours of his interviews, especially from that 2010-2016 era, and it always felt like he had a strong moral code. His vision was always about bettering and improving humanity through creativity, whether it be music, clothing, design, art etc. Yes he was arrogant but moreso through self belief and always being told he couldn’t do things.

    How the hell did he become such an awful person? Well I guess we know how, years of unmedicated mental illness, substance abuse… but it’s still so sad. Used to idolise the guy.

    The fact that he gagged that model on camera in front of la roux in 2010 made me questions this belief I also used to have. And those rape allegations from a couple years later.

    I honestly think he’s been a destructive a****** to anyone he does not consider an asset for as long as I believed he as against those things. He will disrespect, scream at, assault you, harass you, unless you have something he needs. That is Kanye….unfortunately.

  • Mmm Hmm 😆
    Feb 13, 2025
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    The revisionist history has begun

    Users saying ye only has 3 classics now

  • Feb 13, 2025

    My GOAT!

  • Feb 13, 2025
    SEPTEMBER99

    the point of ye's current mode is that HE WILL NOT BREAK THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE

    if you address him like a bully, he will bully back.

    i'm begging someone to address him respectfully.

    I don't think so man. I think often he takes the approach where if you don't suck his d*** he'll cut you out. Lex Friedman tried this approach and Ye still acted like a petulant child.

  • Quas
    Feb 13, 2025
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    Mmm Hmm

    The revisionist history has begun

    Users saying ye only has 3 classics now

    Bro has 5 at the very least.

  • Feb 13, 2025

    Unchecked mental health, being surrounded by yes men and right wing grifters would probably do a number on you. But Ye is a naive person in that he falls for such traps and couldn't see what was going on. You need some kind of accountability here and logic reasoning to see you're just being used to push a certain agenda. Problem is he thinks he's smarter than everyone lol. Now he thinks everyone is after him and is deflecting with his point of black crime and violence being profited off of by his Jewish conspiracy theories.

    If he really cared, he'd go after all the people who wronged him, you can't just say all Jewish people... Just hope he wakes up one day. He's destroying (or has destroyed) almost every relationship, who wants to work with someone like this?

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    SEPTEMBER99

    the point of ye's current mode is that HE WILL NOT BREAK THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE

    if you address him like a bully, he will bully back.

    i'm begging someone to address him respectfully.

    Ppl have replied to you with examples of folks that tried to do that and you have ignored their replies.

    Dave Chapelle personally came through to his ranch after he broke down and ye proceeded to tweet about him years later.

    You’re trying to racialize and politicize everything ye does as a kind of justification of why he wont stop and it falls flat when you remember BIG SEAN NEVER SAID A BAD WORD ABOUT YE BEFORE YE DID WHAT HE DID ON DRINK CHAMPS

  • Mmm Hmm 😆
    Feb 13, 2025
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    Quas

    Bro has 5 at the very least.

    Don't peep the rick ross thread

    Literally mental illness in there

  • Feb 13, 2025
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    insertcoolnamehere

    Ppl have replied to you with examples of folks that tried to do that and you have ignored their replies.

    Dave Chapelle personally came through to his ranch after he broke down and ye proceeded to tweet about him years later.

    You’re trying to racialize and politicize everything ye does as a kind of justification of why he wont stop and it falls flat when you remember BIG SEAN NEVER SAID A BAD WORD ABOUT YE BEFORE YE DID WHAT HE DID ON DRINK CHAMPS

    man big sean was so corny and i never liked his verses except for mercy

  • HBDUSA 🇺🇸
    Feb 13, 2025
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    SEPTEMBER99

    man big sean was so corny and i never liked his verses except for mercy

    Man shut your dumb ass up

  • HBDUSA 🇺🇸
    Feb 13, 2025
    insertcoolnamehere

    Ppl have replied to you with examples of folks that tried to do that and you have ignored their replies.

    Dave Chapelle personally came through to his ranch after he broke down and ye proceeded to tweet about him years later.

    You’re trying to racialize and politicize everything ye does as a kind of justification of why he wont stop and it falls flat when you remember BIG SEAN NEVER SAID A BAD WORD ABOUT YE BEFORE YE DID WHAT HE DID ON DRINK CHAMPS

    That man is not serious

  • Feb 13, 2025
    HBDUSA

    Man shut your dumb ass up

    HE LITERALLY WAS!!! WERE YOU THERE IN 2013??? EVERYONE THOUGHT HE WAS ASS!!!

  • Feb 13, 2025
    SEPTEMBER99

    man big sean was so corny and i never liked his verses except for mercy

    Oh so now you exhibit bias to deflect from the fact ye attacked someone unprovoked.

    Your gimmick is full of s*** dude lol.

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    SEPTEMBER99

    man big sean was so corny and i never liked his verses except for mercy

    big sean wrote graduation

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