Interesting. That’s not the same thing as emotional honesty. What I’m talking about would be more like, your parents explaining their sadness, their depression, explaining the sadness of the kids in your neighborhood, explaining empathy, explaining the cycle of violence. Would you say you feel very strongly that your fear of pain was so intense that it prevented you from doing harmful s***?
it didnt make me afraid, didnt have time tbh
good discipline != dangle punishment
i wasnt THREATENED like some parents do
and it worked MOST of the time tbh, actually it always worked until i outgrew spanking but then u have people who arent ur parents that will check u
id even consider smacking the s*** out of someone in public who openlt disrespects u as discipline but that's grey area and a precursor for an assault charge
Also, for the most part I trust in science, but at the same time scientists can’t decide whether milk is good or bad for you so I think that says allot
I think kids know that painful s*** hurts.
It’s just an example but I meant more that they learn that biting someone results in pain not only for that person they’re biting but risks the same pain for themselves. Which is a much better deterrent than “taking a toy away” or whatever because they know that won’t be a risk with kids or people they decide to bite outside the house.
It’s just an example but I meant more that they learn that biting someone results in pain not only for that person they’re biting but risks the same pain for themselves. Which is a much better deterrent than “taking a toy away” or whatever because they know that won’t be a risk with kids or people they decide to bite outside the house.
facts
it didnt make me afraid, didnt have time tbh
good discipline != dangle punishment
i wasnt THREATENED like some parents do
and it worked MOST of the time tbh, actually it always worked until i outgrew spanking but then u have people who arent ur parents that will check u
I’m confused, if you weren’t afraid then how did it help you? What got you to stop acting up if it wasn’t fear?
Also, for the most part I trust in science, but at the same time scientists can’t decide whether milk is good or bad for you so I think that says allot
Yeah. We should probably just operate based on our personal experiences for everything then.
I’m confused, if you weren’t afraid then how did it help you? What got you to stop acting up if it wasn’t fear?
the overall act of my mum giving an asswooping in general, and the embarrassment involved was enough to finally learn that my behaviour was affecting others to the point where i should stop, many times the spanking wasnt enough to hurt me..
there actually were times when i did the wrong thing AGAIN, knowing the asswooping was coming but for some reason my brain wasnt mature enough to see that my behaviour was wrong until i got a bit older or i witnessed some1 else doing it
very grey area tbh
Well yeah that’s kind of my point.
This generation gets off by trying to cancel and ostracize people that think differently than them, rather than just having meaningful discussion and healthy debate that might lead both sides to a better conclusion.
I’m okay with anti and pro whoopers, but we have to learn how to talk to eachother if you ever expect the side your against to ever respect your argument.
The biggest problem with the cancel/ostracize energy is it usually only pushes people further away from what you want them to believe. If you truly want people to respect your position and maybe change theirs, then you have to be more civil in debates and show respect.
The whole your wrong and you should be banned and castrated doesn’t help anything, it makes it worse.
I fully agree
Have people ITT really been saying that pro whoppers should get canceled / banned? I didn’t see that, but I haven’t tuned into the whole thread.
Go read the first page. While it’s not directly said, it’s all in their energy, thinking people should be castrated and such.
Some thing don’t have to be said to be understood. Clearly a lot of the anti-whoopers harbor resentment for other who believe different and it is probably due to their own traumas from their abusive upbringings and this is them projecting it.
I feel bad for the abused of courses, as I was also maybe “over-disciplined” by a father driven by anger more so than reason most of the time, but that’s not always the case just because it was for me and I understand that.
Just because you (not you, just in general) had a bad experience doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone else. I think why alot of anti-whoopers are so triggered by this debate, is because they are putting their abusive parent’s face on the person who is making the counter-argument. They are turning people with difference of opinion into their enemy due to their own projections rather than logically and reasonably debating and separating their feeling and experiences from an issue that is much bigger than just themselves and their pain.
Yak would be a great father
Wonder how hed react to her making emo girl.
Have people ITT really been saying that pro whoppers should get canceled / banned? I didn’t see that, but I haven’t tuned into the whole thread.
The evidence is the quote at the end of the last page
Yeah. We should probably just operate based on our personal experiences for everything then.
“For the most part I trust science”
I ask my friend his thoughts and he just quoted Matt Barnes:
“Violence is never the answer, but sometimes it is”
Yep cause if violence was never the answer than hitler would have stayed in power.
Extreme example, but it’s true.
Personally though I believe there to be a big difference between violence and discipline.
Yeah. We should probably just operate based on our personal experiences for everything then.
Yes.
the overall act of my mum giving an asswooping in general, and the embarrassment involved was enough to finally learn that my behaviour was affecting others to the point where i should stop, many times the spanking wasnt enough to hurt me..
there actually were times when i did the wrong thing AGAIN, knowing the asswooping was coming but for some reason my brain wasnt mature enough to see that my behaviour was wrong until i got a bit older or i witnessed some1 else doing it
very grey area tbh
I think you always knew your behavior was affecting others. I think you did it anyways because you were selfish.
Whooping is a fear tactic. Maybe you think fear tactics are effective. That’s understandable. But when you got your ass beat, I don’t think you were experiencing extreme empathy for the people you wronged. I think you were experiencing pain. And fear.
You can tell who isn’t black by those saying a whooping is child abuse
There isn't a logical distinction between spanking and domestic abuse
how the f*** this do 38 pages on a Saturday night don't y'all got lives?
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I think you always knew your behavior was affecting others. I think you did it anyways because you were selfish.
Whooping is a fear tactic. Maybe you think fear tactics are effective. That’s understandable. But when you got your ass beat, I don’t think you were experiencing extreme empathy for the people you wronged. I think you were experiencing pain. And fear.
lot of assumption for one post