Kids aren’t animals

Especially based on how they’re raised

I think parents should take it case by case. Parent how you see fit.

Parenting is such a complex and difficult thing to do. There isn’t a one size fits all solution.

I lean on the side of not spanking my child but I’m not gonna call another parent an abuser because they smacked a kid on the hand or on the bottom a could times. That type of s*** just screams sheltered

Maybe your parenting skills are s*** then

Have you thought about that?

You can’t judge peoples preferred styles of parenting without f***ing knowing them or seeing their consequences what the f*** are you guys on about?

No 13-15 year old boy is gonna listen to a stern talking to or a heart to heart. They’re just not

Actions have consequences.

The fact that these mf's in the thread doesn't get that

13-15 year olds who aren’t being that reasonable werent raised well

I don’t like this argument because everything isn’t on the parent lol. You can raise your child with nothing but love and respect but they’ll go to school and meet Ray and think he’s cool and start acting like that. People tend to forget about outside factors when it come to a child’s behavior. We ALL know people like that.

No I live in the real f***ing world. Any kid especially a preteen/teenage boy who’s not a p**** is gonna do whatever they want when the only consequences they face are a talking to from their parents

Delusional

You don't see any issues between making broad descriptive claims about this, but being lax towards spanking when there is massive amounts of research decrying it?

Most boys aren’t listening to that bullshit bruh stop it. Like get real

This is what we call acting in bad faith. Thanks for schooling me in the debate!

It’s reality my friends’ parents always made sure that they were a place where there was trust, safety, responsibility, and logic. Even in their “rebellious” and experimental phases they remained open with their parents and their relationship is far far better than kids I knew who’s forms of discipline were violence and authority first

Having a place where you can work out your problems with people who will guide you into the future will always be more beneficial than those who punish you for wrongdoing through violence and brute force

I don’t believe this

This dude expects me to believe he has a whole friend group that never got any type punishment growing up.

Why the f*** do y’all get on here and lie for

Never said they never got punishment

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3741355

We hypothesized that less inductive and more physical discipline would predict more externalizing problems, children would have evocative effects on parenting, and high levels of either form of discipline would predict low levels of the other. In a study of 241 children–spanning ages 3, 5.5, and 10–structural equation modeling indicated that 3-year-olds with higher teacher ratings of externalizing problems received higher mother ratings of physical discipline at age 5.5. Mothers endorsing more inductive discipline at child age 3 reported less physical discipline and had children with fewer externalizing problems at age 5.5. Negative bidirectional associations emerged between physical and inductive discipline from ages 5.5 to 10. Findings suggested children’s externalizing problems elicited physical discipline, and maternal inductive discipline might help prevent externalizing problems and physical discipline.

Yeah, those 13 year old kids won't listen. But it's crazy how those 3, 5, and 10 year olds do

My dad hit me and at the end of the day I think it made me a better person. He didn’t abuse me, but he would discipline me it I did some s*** that was unacceptable. It helped me learn that there are consequences to my actions. Regardless of those consequences being physical or not, it taught me that I have to think before I do anything. That’s a really important lesson.

I’m not happy about it and I don’t look back on those memories fondly, but I’m old enough to see that it worked. There are other avenues to teach the same lesson, but would they have been as efficient for someone like my dad? Someone who was actually abused in an era and environment where that was just part of life? Probably not. There isn’t some rule book for parenting. My dad tried to be better than his parents. He succeeded. I think that’s all we can ask for.

Ya parents brainwashed with the "discipline" your dumbass if you actually think this is true

Wishing you well my brother cause you need to heal

What are you even talking about who said you couldn’t take s*** from the child lmao

Americana. Maybe read the thread before puffing your chest out and replying

‘beating their kids like an opp’ has killed me

I did read the thread and I didn’t see him say that anywhere?