Instead of getting proper consequences and learning to make restitution for your actions.

I mean you could be covert about s*** after mom takes away PlayStation too tho it can go both ways for this

Fam children at 5 are not going to be able to understand all that. They are still learning about the world around them at home, let alone outside. You hitting them is going to create relations between violence and discipline that f*** them up. It’s like ascertained but god knows how many professionals in multiple fields

Physical discipline can teach there is consequences for actions in ways that words can't. If I u as a child get burnt by fire u learn to stay from fire better than me telling u to stay away from it.

Yes. Defending someone who abused you by saying they aren’t abusive is Stockholm syndrome.

s*** also weirds me out when i see parents gleefully bragging about hitting their kids or their future kids, they sound like weird sadists who get their kicks off to it

i mean i wouldn’t be surprised, it endows the parent with a power rush due to perceived disrespect

Yeah I did and it made me behave lmao. My mom wasn’t out here legit BEATING me leaving marks an s***, just enough for it to make me say damn that kinda hurt maybe I should stop doing bad s***.
She only resorted to ass whoopings when everything else wasn’t working and it’s not like I was under 7 or 8 years old getting whooped lmao
She did it when I got a little older and KNEW better when I was doing s*** I shouldn’t have or being disrespectful etc

So if I do something wrong and I receive violence and pain from my parent, what does that teach me? It teaches me to keep things away from the parent that hurts me

Your a***ogy is perfect, thank you.

yall dont realize that you can do all that "non-violence" s*** and the child can still grow up bad ass f*** lol. It happens and i've seen it before.

Yeah and doing that violence s*** only makes it more certain for your child to grow up f***ed up

I feel like in these discussions ya take physical discipline to mean 24/7 beating ur child with a bat for leaving toys out or sum simple.

Again, you haven’t responded but if they are doing s*** that bad they need some type of behavioral therapy you nimrod.

She WAS abusive and this thread alone shows what kind of person it has turned you into. You have less empathy. Seek therapy before your kids need to after you start unleashing on them when they start defying you.

then we must address the environment and culture around them, which takes material changes

kids are mostly socially molded by their environment and their roles outside of the home

I knew kids who got whooped growing up that had a lot less discipline than ones who never did

Says the guy defending hitting children.

I’m sure they’ll get over it. Besides I prob got beatings when I was that age and I don’t have repressed memories of getting spanked.

Fr tho do y’all think i have PTSD from my parents giving me the belt? Lol

U do know this can apply to literally every other form of discipline that's non violent right ?

Cause kids that don't get beat from their parents 100% still keep things from their parents

Yeah that’s why you are defending it because it’s hard to reconciliate parental love and parental abuse which is why abuse from close people is so dangerous and warps our brains forever.

They literally have no idea what a “whooping” really is

Shut the f*** up

No but I know kids who do have childhood trauma from that. You don't know how kids will respond to that sort of stuff. Some might end up like you, and be able to handle it well, but others don't