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  • Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    just burnout on talking or being asked every day about the same albums and same songs

    it’s like pet sounds i don’t listen much to it like that i listen more to 70s material

    Burnout on listening or talking about them?

  • rvi 🦜
    Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    tired of people sleeping on short fun bops

    they are as essential and relevant than a million songs of strawberry fields and whatnot

    ppl gotta stop thinking they too good for she loves you etc

    the main early singles are still always super acclaimed but i think the first 2 albums would be held in much higher regard if it werent for the cover songs. not that i think theyre awful covers or anything, just..less good

  • rvi 🦜
    Apr 10, 2021
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    never thought id see @Ithaka praising beatles

  • Apr 10, 2021
    Elric

    out if "sounding like the beatles" is the definition of power pop

    first of all the beatles had many different styles even on their first album

    second their sound was one quarters; chuck berry, buddy holly, little richard and everly brothers

    third there are 18 other great bands that the singles sound equally like if youre that broad with your definitions

    edit this to one fifths cause they were girl group/motown stans too

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    rvi

    never thought id see @Ithaka praising beatles

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    rvi

    the main early singles are still always super acclaimed but i think the first 2 albums would be held in much higher regard if it werent for the cover songs. not that i think theyre awful covers or anything, just..less good

    i think theyre amazing and better than the originals in most cases

  • Apr 10, 2021
    Elric

    so i can answer your question of what defines power pop or so ill finally admit Singles sound like the Beatles? not sure what were even debating anymore but i stated my case and am gonna go play some games

    the first since that was my question

  • Apr 10, 2021
    sfsorrow

    Burnout on listening or talking about them?

    both but more so the later

  • Apr 10, 2021
    rvi

    never thought id see @Ithaka praising beatles

    me too

    too much beatles talk for the day ive had my dose for 2021 its a wrap meet y’all in 2022 for any further beatles conversations

  • Apr 10, 2021
    rvi

    the main early singles are still always super acclaimed but i think the first 2 albums would be held in much higher regard if it werent for the cover songs. not that i think theyre awful covers or anything, just..less good

    agreed for the covers but we talking ore rubber in general

  • Apr 10, 2021
    Elric

    dam i felt into the trap

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    Elric

    i think theyre amazing and better than the originals in most cases

    hate to say this but gotta agree on postman at least

    funny how for years i was told to PRAISE SGT PEPPERS or i wasn’t in or cool

    and i would listen to it on and on

    yet first time i heard please me postman that NO ONE HAS EVER MENTIONED TO ME OR ANYWHERE TO BE SEEN TALKED ABOUT ONLINE EVER i had the song on repeat for DAYS

    @sfsorrow

    the same effect for bbs where i was hammered forever on pet sounds and pet sounds alone and only and yet i had to find out for myself for a song like all this is that or what not (at top of my head just for example)

    that’s why i like to talk more about this because it’s relevant, im not telling you anything new by saying pet sounds is amazing and you’re not either to me, and don’t we wanna hear something new? surely there’s more to greatness than this

    same with weezer - etc etc

    (sorry digressed there elric)

  • rvi 🦜
    Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    hate to say this but gotta agree on postman at least

    funny how for years i was told to PRAISE SGT PEPPERS or i wasn’t in or cool

    and i would listen to it on and on

    yet first time i heard please me postman that NO ONE HAS EVER MENTIONED TO ME OR ANYWHERE TO BE SEEN TALKED ABOUT ONLINE EVER i had the song on repeat for DAYS

    @sfsorrow

    the same effect for bbs where i was hammered forever on pet sounds and pet sounds alone and only and yet i had to find out for myself for a song like all this is that or what not (at top of my head just for example)

    that’s why i like to talk more about this because it’s relevant, im not telling you anything new by saying pet sounds is amazing and you’re not either to me, and don’t we wanna hear something new? surely there’s more to greatness than this

    same with weezer - etc etc

    (sorry digressed there elric)

    funny that you say that cuz the postman cover is one im not big on lol

    you like the song This Boy? was guessing that would be one of your favs from beatles

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    rvi

    funny that you say that cuz the postman cover is one im not big on lol

    you like the song This Boy? was guessing that would be one of your favs from beatles

    yes it’s the best song they ever did

  • rvi 🦜
    Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    yes it’s the best song they ever did

    whew i was right i was listening the other day literally thinking "theres no way ithaka doesnt like this one"

    random tangientally rated question since youre a big doo wop fan, who do you think is the #1 doo wop artist/group of all time? feel like i hear about specific doo wop songs more than the artists. other than stuff like the Platters. who has the goat doo wop catalog?

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    rvi

    whew i was right i was listening the other day literally thinking "theres no way ithaka doesnt like this one"

    random tangientally rated question since youre a big doo wop fan, who do you think is the #1 doo wop artist/group of all time? feel like i hear about specific doo wop songs more than the artists. other than stuff like the Platters. who has the goat doo wop catalog?

    haha i appreciate the thought - i could play this boy right after in my room in a playlist

    that’s a great question id have to sit and think of that when im off

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    @grimes @spongebob @Noir would you say those two bands sounds nothing alike?like there’s no influence heritage or belonging in the same playlist or likeness - recommendation whatsoever?

    !https://youtu.be/UVKU6SevefY!https://youtu.be/sOR4-pFkPxg

    the Singles intro sounds way more Byrds than Beatles tbh

  • Apr 10, 2021
    Elric

    the Singles intro sounds way more Byrds than Beatles tbh

    good point

  • rvi 🦜
    Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    haha i appreciate the thought - i could play this boy right after in my room in a playlist

    that’s a great question id have to sit and think of that when im off

    was planning to dl some random doo wop this weekend (probably loose individual singles)

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    rvi

    was planning to dl some random doo wop this weekend (probably loose individual singles)

    that’s most likely the best way to go - doowop was an era of singles remember albums or the concept of an album only started around mid beatles and even then in the us it wasn’t yet (look how late the bbs were to catch on) and since doowop is mainly US it didn’t really live on to catch on that

    like i could cheat and rely with the duprees - they only got two singles lol they did do an album in 1968 i have to listen

    great singles tho lol

    but yeah that’s typical of the doowop scene

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    hate to say this but gotta agree on postman at least

    funny how for years i was told to PRAISE SGT PEPPERS or i wasn’t in or cool

    and i would listen to it on and on

    yet first time i heard please me postman that NO ONE HAS EVER MENTIONED TO ME OR ANYWHERE TO BE SEEN TALKED ABOUT ONLINE EVER i had the song on repeat for DAYS

    @sfsorrow

    the same effect for bbs where i was hammered forever on pet sounds and pet sounds alone and only and yet i had to find out for myself for a song like all this is that or what not (at top of my head just for example)

    that’s why i like to talk more about this because it’s relevant, im not telling you anything new by saying pet sounds is amazing and you’re not either to me, and don’t we wanna hear something new? surely there’s more to greatness than this

    same with weezer - etc etc

    (sorry digressed there elric)

    im a major sucker for Lennons voice so his versions are

    Baby Its You
    Twist & Shout
    Mr Postman
    Money
    You Really Got A Hold On Me (ok tie with Smokie)

    the Chuck Berry and Little Richard covers are pointless

    hm to Ringos Chains and Carl Perkins covers tho

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    rvi

    funny that you say that cuz the postman cover is one im not big on lol

    you like the song This Boy? was guessing that would be one of your favs from beatles

    great climax on This Boy

    Paul said watching Lennon perform in those early days was like watching Elvis he was a fanboy

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    Elric

    great climax on This Boy

    Paul said watching Lennon perform in those early days was like watching Elvis he was a fanboy

    tell me why also underrated

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    ithaka

    tell me why also underrated

    All Ive Got To Do always been one of my favourite to sing along to with my fake Liverpewl accent (grandpa was from liverpool tho)

  • rvi 🦜
    Apr 10, 2021
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    Elric

    im a major sucker for Lennons voice so his versions are

    Baby Its You
    Twist & Shout
    Mr Postman
    Money
    You Really Got A Hold On Me (ok tie with Smokie)

    the Chuck Berry and Little Richard covers are pointless

    hm to Ringos Chains and Carl Perkins covers tho

    the only ones i really love are Twist and Shout and Anna (Go to Him)

    but the only ones that id say are actually subpar or useless are the Chuck/Richard ones and Mr Moonlight. rest are middling to moderately enjoyable

    ive been revisiting early Beatles this past week and I definitely have more of an appreciation from it now than i did when i first listened years ago. because of the knowledge/context i have of the rhythm and blues/early rock/etc. music that i didn't have before

    for some reason im not huge on any version of You Really Got a Hold On Me tbh