not you pulling up this screenshot like i care

Couldn't agree more. Cruisin was sub-par but Hello on the other hand

I wonder how Trouble Man 2 would've turned out. I hope that s*** comes out one day

Dam I think Tip gonna sell less than Dime Trap with this alum. Probably around 20k first week

He released Pardon way too late. It should've been the first single

Yup

Lost all credibility when he said TI vs. TIP came out in 2003

Guy chatting pure S

He's right about Tip turning people off with constant wokeness tho. It is what it is

Which one of y'all is this

Lmfaooo

Lol I seen this s*** a few days ago. Why he say he was finna give a first week prediction then just talk about why he doesn't like T.I

Not really. People aren't even listening to know that Tip is like that. Tip is his own enemy most times in how he's marketed. He sells albums like he did 15 years ago and that doesn't work. The $1200 bullshit was stupid. It didn't actually help the album at all.. He needs to let someone else handle his marketing, not Grand Hustle or Epic or whoever he is signed with. He hasn't been marketed correctly at all in the current era... back in 2008, He was the man, he could get by with bad marketing, even though he was marketed correctly back then... today's marketing dollars shouldn't go to billboards> it should go to "if you preorder my album, you'll get this exclusive bullshit" and pushing your singles everywhere and getting playlist placements, You know those are just paid slots.

As much as yal may hate to admit it. Hearing "all white people basically suck" throughout Us or Else and part of Dime Trap turns off his fanbase that is at least 50% white. When you can't make a hit anymore and you agitate half your base, you don't sell.

I disagree. White people only go where the culture goes in this here industry. T.I ain't getting no play, most of the real world didn't know he dropped a album.

Us or Else message deifnitely wasnt aimed at white people but ok

How is that what u got from those albums? I didn’t get that vibe at all. Some of the only actually good political music made in the last couple years is on Us or Else. How is this anti-white lol

Is this any good?

youtu.be/4u9QBqxjx3I

Buster rhymes calls out t.i

Album is trash compare to im serious to papertrail

This is probably his worse album by far

If the guy who produced On the Hood added chord / baseline progression , the song would have a different vybe... it doesnt take a lot to have a correct song seriously in theory, wtf are these loop ? Tip been cooning with these video animation seriously, what is this a p*** compilation ?? his fan base 20 40+ aint no kid smh....
Big Krit has 0 bad project and will never have
thats the legend running ATL lol TIP , tip the inventor of trap music trying to sound like a modern rapper instead of evolving on his own
To me its just a proof that tip invented nothing
the level he has right now
like an historian said, we dont invent something 10 times... but 1 time the rest is just innnovation based on a blueprint

Did u heard him during the listenning session?

At 18 min he talks about writing his lyrics down and when hes not.

At 35 mn he talks about not giving a f*** about the structure of the song just because him and thug pushed themselve to try new thing. Thats why we have short verse n song, and weird structured beat. He turned out bad for tip ngl if u compares to a Travis structured song, makes more sense technically.

For the lyrics.. for im serious wrote his lyrics but then lost his pack of paper and then told himself he will never write his s*** again... so until tip vs ti he didnt write s*** on paper, but then big phil told him the idea to rewrite his s*** and then phil die and tip did it for paper trail thats why the album title
So on this album there is song he wrote confirmed He confirmed that because he wanted to be meticulous sometimes
I guess we did it big he wrote his lyrics on paper
For me if he write his s*** down it be way f***in better he is more articulate. And has a carrying attitude about little details. But one coyld say he doesnt sound instinctive but too calculated... but i guess its all about finding the balance... because on the intro i think if he wrote down his lyrics we would not feel the mob vybe he tried to give us tjen i dont know... if you listen forgave myself we have the feeling and he wrote it i believe so..
This is why he never going to sound the same again from I'm serious to papertrail
He doesnt give a f*** only reason he release an album it was for his friends and buddy's .
Not for fans that's f*** up .

F*** outta here bumass Trius lookin b****ass.