Rockstard

4y

A large part of why people hate war is because there are always civilian casualties. Ukraine just enforced a military draft too, so a good portion of their forces were civilians less than 24 hours ago

ragedsycokiller

4y

The nazi s*** isn't relevant at the moment for what Putin is doing, but it's a warning sign to what is coming with these groups in the country after this war is over.

ARCADE GOON

4y

Now the USA will arm Ukrainian Nazis (that users ITT are caping for) once Zelensky gets toppled to form a guerilla war against whatever new government they form in Ukraine

Where did we see that...hmm...

Malik Nabers Fan

4y

Folks ITT would justify an invasion of a US city because there are Nazis in the US

Backwards asf

Pluto Vert

4y

and USSR funded Vietcong

XENOFLAWLESS

4y

idk if this was posted here yet but

staticshockk

4y

raptv

Malik Nabers Fan

4y

Folks ITT would justify an invasion of a US city because there are Nazis in the US

Backwards asf

XENOFLAWLESS

4y

idk if this was posted here yet but

Moonchaser

4y

I understand, but some people may wrongly take it as support of the invasion going on or consider it's not really the time to talk about things like that
It's not even the only country in Eastern Europe that had Nazis in it, Romania WAS a Nazi state for a few years(obv not the choice of their people but still)

XENOFLAWLESS

4y

idk if this was posted here yet but

staticshockk

4y

raptv

fun guy

4y

When did I say that? I don't support Russia

I'm acknowledging the very real Nazi/far-right presence in Ukraine, something which Eurocacs vehemently deny

orangetcovid

4y

Lol damn

fun guy

4y

Don’t think its fair to say that the Ukrainian government is “literally” run by Nazi’s, but there is a serious ultra nationalist/far-right/neo-Nazi presence in Ukraine that's being disingenuously overlooked by most liberals. This isn’t “Russian propaganda”, Western media outlets have frequently criticized Ukraine for this in years prior.

Excerpt from the Nation: “Post-Maidan Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces. The Azov Battalion was initially formed out of the neo-Nazi gang Patriot of Ukraine. Andriy Biletsky, the gang’s leader who became Azov’s commander, once wrote that Ukraine’s mission is to “lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade…against the Semite-led Untermenschen.” Biletsky is now a deputy in Ukraine’s parliament.”

Human Right Watch: “Since the beginning of 2018, members of radical groups such as C14, Right Sector, Traditsii i Poryadok (Traditions and Order), Karpatska Sich and others have carried out at least two dozen violent attacks, threats, or instances of intimidation in Kyiv, Vinnitsa, Uzhgorod, Lviv, Chernivtsi, Ivano-Frankivsk, and other Ukrainian cities. Law enforcement authorities have rarely opened investigations. In the cases in which they did, there is no indication that authorities took effective investigative measures to identify the attackers, even in cases in which the assailants publicly claimed responsibility on social media”.

Ukraine introduced a National Holiday to commemorate Nazi collaborater and war criminal Stepan Bandera. There is an entire Wikipedia section dedicated to monuments of this guy in Ukraine and there's plenty of streets in his name as well. Here he is being honoured by thousands of nationalists:

They also celebrate the Ukranian Insrugent Army (UPA), a genocidal far right military group that committed ethnic cleansing against tens of thousands of Polish people during WW2.

Far right vigilants have attacked Jewish people, women's marches, LGBTQ activists, and have burnt down Romani camps then chased their children down with axes. Here’s some footage of them in the aftermath begging for police to help:

Every year, there's a neo-Nazi metal concert hosted in Ukraine called Asgardsrei, where Nazi scum from all over Europe flock to so they can openly tout Nazi flags, symbols, salutes, etc., this s*** is so crazy.

According to a report from Israel (lol), there were more anti-Semitic attacks (130+) in Ukraine in 2017 than in all other former USSR countries combined.

The normal reaction from any respectable government would be to harshly condemn/combat/ostracize these Nazi f***s. Instead, the Ukrainian government has embraced them, and has integrated some of them into their military and political body; most famous is the Azov Battalion's integration into Ukraine's National Guard. That’s not all though: here’s a good piece from 2014 describing some Nazis and ultra nationalists who have been integrated into Ukraine's political body following Euromaidan.

Ukraine can defend itself while also condemning Nazism, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. I still think Russia’s in the wrong in this scenario and don’t support them. But sending tens of millions of dollars in weapons/military aid to Ukraine, when it could very well end up in the hands of far right nationalists and neo-Nazi’s is risky business to say the least. People should definitely be aware of who this aid might be going to, and for f***s sake, liberals need to stop making excuses for Nazism.

afterimage

4y

Actually now that I think about it wasn’t the Vietcong just south Vietnamese resistance fighters who aligned with the north?

staticshockk

4y

raptv

math fifty

4y

Some cities need to be invaded tbf

Like get Boston out of here

PIMP

4y

I'm a USA hater and i wouldn't wish this

omgcrine

4y

come here you p****

i was chased by 20 nazis after The Exploited concert here in central Europe

the f*** u know abt that lol ... yeah we get it - nazis are in ukraine and its big ass f***ing problem no f***ing s*** sherlock

ALSO INNOCENT F***ING PEOPLE ARE DYING HERE and yall still repeat about nazis for 100 pages itt - ok there are nazis we KNOW fam

gbluecheez

4y

So if russia takes over ukraine will that be the end of it