krishna bound

4y

I'm not saying that intelligence officials don't fake crimes or lure people into operations, but I'm saying that these intelligence agencies are not God-like figures which can perfectly plan out and perfect mass-scale operations with pinpoint accuracy and control every single aspect of everything magically.
Obviously if you've read my posts elsewhere on the forum I've said as much; there are lots of examples of FBI entrapment - for example, the FBI lured a young muslim man into bombing an NYC subway around 2010 (iirc), and as I said above, the vegas shooter is another "suspicious" one. There are also other examples of this in recent history, like the supposed entrapment of adam lanza or the FBI bulldozing a "shooter training camp" in New Mexico & scrubbing the story online.
What I'm saying is that government agencies are not all knowing all powerful entities like people online want them to be often; they are hugely incompetent due to bureaucracy, modern government structure, misplaced incentive, and many other factors. this is not just a front for "shielding operations", it's the truth, these agencies are powerful due to the lawless nature and amount of resources they have, they aren't powerful because they're staffed with omniscient demigods.

krishna bound

4y

what do you think the incentive was in this specific scenario, the only possible thing i can imagine is FBI entrapment, but if this is the case, why such a niche sub-group? did the FBI suddenly rebrand and now cares primarily about thecoli posters? joking, but more seriously, in recent times the FBI cares far more about keeping tabs on actual political organizers or young muslims rather than they do unstable hoteps online

Mango

4y

I'm sorry but when you run with their defacto incompetence defense and totally misunderstand how they are guaranteed to facilitate crime/murder , it's hard to take you seriously.

Not to mention the classic conflating of actual reporting and exposure of their crimes with outlandish internet theorizing. Another branding success.

I've already thrown out my measured disclaimer that no, they aren't actually God. Yes, we know. Brilliant insight. Now go do the actual reading on the subject like the "conspiracy theorists" you people are always arguing against. Another great branding operation to smear anyone investigating matters outside of the establishment.

Start with easy s*** like Whitey Bulger. The LEAST you walk away with is understanding how their structure leaves them unaccountable for their "incompetence" (actual corruption and complicity on an agent level in that case) which results in dead bodies. I mean you'll be 15% less gullible after that.

Now this specific case is still fresh. I really hope this guy left a video of him talking about it before he killed himself. Of course, the man who livestreamed himself in DC talking about having a bomb in his truck did that. He referred to people who helped him aqcuire the bomb multiple times. Now, once they realized it wasn't an active bomb but a dummy one (strange) they could drop that part of the investigation. Nobody cared. The country with the most media in the world couldn't be bothered to care about going "huh that's weird right".

What about the absent bomb makers in the Boston marathon case? Hmm, if only we had examples of the feds supplying unwitting people with bombmaking material or alleged bombs. Huh, I guess we do don't we. What's the gap there. How many steps removed are setting up a terrorist attack or pretending to set one up of protecting an asset who doesn't use that cover to commit atrocities and protecting an asset who does use that cover to commit atrocities. An insurmountable gulf according to people like you. I guess they are incompetent AND god if they can tow a line that thin.

But hey, what's their incentive. It's not like their budgets go up and their powers are increased the more bad things happen lol. Everytime they f*** up they get promoted and get a raise. I mean come the f*** on.

lovetalkgames

4y

It’s about who they can form a believable narrative around. losers, race warriors, anyone with anti-establishment rhetoric, and so on. These are all the types they like to keep tabs on and even sometimes recruit. I’m not saying that’s the case here but once I hear about explosives, like actual bombs I always consider the possibility.

SHAQUILLE

4y

A 62-year-old man who railed against Mayor Adams and made bizarre threatening rants on YouTube has been identified as a person of interest in the savage Brooklyn subway attack that injured at least 29 people Tuesday morning, officials said.

Frank James — who warned last month that he was “entering the danger zone” — rented a U-Haul van tied to the N train attack in Sunset Park and is being sought for questioning, police said at an evening briefing.

“Mr. Mayor, I’m a victim of your mental health program,” James said in one lengthy video.

“I’m 63 now full of hate, full of anger, and full of bitterness.”

James said he had a diagnosed mental illness and railed against what he called the “horror show” of the city’s mental health services.

“What’s going on in that place is violence,” he said about a facility he claimed to receive care from. “Not physical violence,” he explained, “but the kind of violence a child experiences in grade school… that would make him go get a gun and shooting motherf–ers.”

The person of interest ranted about race issues and claimed that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was proof that black people were treated with disdain in society.

“These white motherfu–ers, this is what they do,” he said. “Ultimately at the end of the day they kill and commit genocide against each other. What do you think they gonna do to your black ass?”

The only options James could find, he claimed, was to commit more violence or become a criminal.

“And so the message to me is: I should have gotten a gun, and just started shooting motherf—ers,” he said.

“Or I should have gotten some dope and started shooting or starting hitting bit–es in the head, robbing old ladies, you know what the fu– it is.”

The key to James’ van was found at the scene of the crime, as was a credit card that rented the vehicle out of Philadelphia, cops and law-enforcement sources said.

Police have launched a massive manhunt for the shooter and revealed that surveillance cameras at the Sunset Park subway station were not working at the time of the assault. Law enforcement sources told The Post that the cameras tend to go out “from time to time.”

NYPD Commissioner Keechant Sewell said at an earlier press conference that the suspect is a roughly 5-foot-5 black man with a heavy build at around 170 pounds. He was wearing a gas mask, an orange and green construction-type vest, neon-green work helmet and a hooded gray sweatshirt at the time.

During an evening press briefing, Sewell said that among the items recovered by cops at the scene were a 9 mm handgun, a hatchet, gasoline and “consumer-grade fireworks.”

At least one witness said she mistook the attacker for an MTA worker.

In an e-mail earlier in the day to the entire police patrol force, cops had been ordered to keep their eyes peeled for the U-Haul and mark down its location and license plates.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/12/frank-r-james-idd-as-person-of-interest-in-brooklyn-subway-shooting/

lovetalkgames

4y

Until we see video there’s no reason to believe this guy even did it.

eclass

4y

There’s no reason to suspect he did it? He got a whole YouTube channel

lovetalkgames

4y

Until we see video there’s no reason to believe this guy even did it.

SHAQUILLE

4y

A 62-year-old man who railed against Mayor Adams and made bizarre threatening rants on YouTube has been identified as a person of interest in the savage Brooklyn subway attack that injured at least 29 people Tuesday morning, officials said.

Frank James — who warned last month that he was “entering the danger zone” — rented a U-Haul van tied to the N train attack in Sunset Park and is being sought for questioning, police said at an evening briefing.

“Mr. Mayor, I’m a victim of your mental health program,” James said in one lengthy video.

“I’m 63 now full of hate, full of anger, and full of bitterness.”

James said he had a diagnosed mental illness and railed against what he called the “horror show” of the city’s mental health services.

“What’s going on in that place is violence,” he said about a facility he claimed to receive care from. “Not physical violence,” he explained, “but the kind of violence a child experiences in grade school… that would make him go get a gun and shooting motherf–ers.”

The person of interest ranted about race issues and claimed that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was proof that black people were treated with disdain in society.

“These white motherfu–ers, this is what they do,” he said. “Ultimately at the end of the day they kill and commit genocide against each other. What do you think they gonna do to your black ass?”

The only options James could find, he claimed, was to commit more violence or become a criminal.

“And so the message to me is: I should have gotten a gun, and just started shooting motherf—ers,” he said.

“Or I should have gotten some dope and started shooting or starting hitting bit–es in the head, robbing old ladies, you know what the fu– it is.”

The key to James’ van was found at the scene of the crime, as was a credit card that rented the vehicle out of Philadelphia, cops and law-enforcement sources said.

Police have launched a massive manhunt for the shooter and revealed that surveillance cameras at the Sunset Park subway station were not working at the time of the assault. Law enforcement sources told The Post that the cameras tend to go out “from time to time.”

NYPD Commissioner Keechant Sewell said at an earlier press conference that the suspect is a roughly 5-foot-5 black man with a heavy build at around 170 pounds. He was wearing a gas mask, an orange and green construction-type vest, neon-green work helmet and a hooded gray sweatshirt at the time.

During an evening press briefing, Sewell said that among the items recovered by cops at the scene were a 9 mm handgun, a hatchet, gasoline and “consumer-grade fireworks.”

At least one witness said she mistook the attacker for an MTA worker.

In an e-mail earlier in the day to the entire police patrol force, cops had been ordered to keep their eyes peeled for the U-Haul and mark down its location and license plates.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/12/frank-r-james-idd-as-person-of-interest-in-brooklyn-subway-shooting/

lovetalkgames

4y

I don’t care. When we get to the point where content we disagree with automatically makes someone a psycho we’re in a bad place.

lovetalkgames

4y

Until we see video there’s no reason to believe this guy even did it.

World1

4y

Lol tf video you need to see? Him saying he did it?

lovetalkgames

4y

Until we see video there’s no reason to believe this guy even did it.

insertcoolnamehere

4y

yeah we reached that part of the shooting thread where the nutjob conspiracy theorists come out

I'm outty!

lovetalkgames

4y

Here go the “nothing is a conspiracy”, “I LOVE CNN” users.

insertcoolnamehere

4y

I haven't watched CNN in years dipshit.

lovetalkgames

4y

Whatever it is your pushing it’s clear you have nothing else going for you so you’re supposed sanity and normal worldview are what you hold onto for approval. We get it, but some people want to explore all angles for the sake of discussion. We’re on a discussion based web forum I believe. Unless I’m wrong.

SIGH

4y

Can’t find it now but there was a vid of a single dude trying to open the subway car door but it was locked and all the people in the car are trying to get as far away from the door by standing at the far opposite end of the train.
Coulda sworn it was on the first 10 pages here but now I can’t find it anywhere.

eclass

4y

‘You have nothing else going for you so you have a practical world view’.

You sure you don’t have anything better to do if you’re so involved in entertaining conspiracy theories ? Weirdo