im sorry i don't understand what you're saying

Made up rules. Everyone from Cube to Snoop to Pac to Nas used others bars. Every hot artist was cooking up reference tracks for BP3

being one of the only Future haters on this site has finally paid off.

Ye gave drake his freestyle + everything he wanted to rap about and drake sent it back in verse form.

Who noooose who helped drake with that.

I don't believe he's written anything at this point.

You just lied man. Thats not what Kanye said lmao

Not made up at all, there’s a reason why writers and ref tracks leaking are a big deal in hip hop

i agree with you to an extent but also i really believe the only GOAT level rappers that didn't have anyone write for them at any point was pac and big. you can have some writers but if your best and most celebrated work isn't yours then you're excluded from that GOAT rapper convo but still maybe could be in that GOAT artist convo because total artistry is a whole different convo to me

yes it is. pull up the clip

if Jake one laid down vocals on the Percocet and the stripper joint

Its cause people dont know the process of making music. If you spent 1 day in a studio you’d know that everyone in there helps with the creative process. Coming up with lines to fill the verses, how to end a verse etc

I’m not ready to walk that line yet. But I would like to think the number is higher than we think

Y'all acting like this is a bomb shell exposure.

Future got help on a experimental album that's not even a top 10 project from him

Keep that same energy when those Francis and the lights thank me later demo references leak

Cmon dog you hate future too?

we all love Future but nobody considers him a rapper's rapper anyway

no point in a thread

you’re just gonna get Euros and people that got into hip-hop post 2015 telling you that authenticity in songwriting doesn’t matter and everything is okay as long as the music just sounds good

i think it was confirmed that drake wrote for dre, wayne, alicia keys, kanye, and baka like he sat there and wrote it

probably but rap was supposed to be different...

got me feeling like Obi Wan at the end of RotS

Alright man

oh yeah

Can you relax, the sound of goalposts moving scares my cat

I’d say it’s only for rappers that have had extensive writing done for them. A hook or something small once or twice isn’t a big deal. Help on multiple hits, large parts of your career, ehhh

i think i've accepted everyone is a performer but sometimes you can really tell when someone wrote a song themself for sure

is there anyone you’re willing to bet your life on that they never got help writing

Who's moving goalpost? This is as much an L for Future as it is Drake if that's what you mean. The only difference is I can't really dock points from Future being a real lyricist because he never was to begin with lmao