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  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet
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    mick jagger was known for kinda sucking at singing live but no one is using it against the rolling stones to say they arent one of the best bands ever. same to dif extents goes for iggy pop, neil young, jimi hendrix, bruce springsteen.

    you really pulling names out of your ass here

    Bruce widely considered one of the greatest live performers of all time and I can concur after aseeing him multiple times.

    look any this s***;

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    onedeep

    He also can't sing and is ugly

    ur ugly

  • Jul 30, 2025
    Andre Jaquet

    this is a good performance but bob was at the time kinda known for what im saying in his shows, the main criticism against him was the way he sung live. beautiful performance though i love it.

  • Jul 30, 2025
    Headass

    Explain this

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Elric

    you really pulling names out of your ass here

    Bruce widely considered one of the greatest live performers of all time and I can concur after aseeing him multiple times.

    look any this s***;

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEG92m2IRlU

    at the time this kind of singing was considered really ugly a lot of people f***ing hated how he sung live and still do. but yeah i was tweaking, he dont belong there. applies more to mick jagger and dylan

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    im not personally saying neil young is a bad singer, im saying he was one of others known for being relative to his time not the best at singing live, he was p controversial for that. but see how we point to his music, cuz it rly doesnt matter. technical performing ability doesnt really mean s***, ur shows in the future are all about what u do to the crowd, the music, and the aura basically lol. someone like ccarti isnt like a crazy good performer vocally, but his shows when u watch them are undeniable blasts of energy. or someone like yougn thug, idek how good his shows are but hes still a goat.

    say what you will about his singing (I know his voice polarizing) but everything else is objectively peak

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    ur ugly

    And I'm not an artist so it doesn't matter

  • Jul 30, 2025
    onedeep

    And I'm not an artist so it doesn't matter

    i be forgetting ur one of the mean gays

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    at the time this kind of singing was considered really ugly a lot of people f***ing hated how he sung live and still do. but yeah i was tweaking, he dont belong there. applies more to mick jagger and dylan

    ill allow Jagger and thats it Dylan was god level in the mid 60s

    this was punk as f***, literally telling them go f*** yourself to their faces

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    ill allow Jagger and thats it Dylan was god level in the mid 60s

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPfsUlFxhrI

    this was punk as f***, literally telling them go f*** yourself to their faces

    ay man all im saying is depending on the group thats a controversial opinion it was known as dylan's weakest aspect. i love dylan tho.

    if ur giving me jagger anyway that still allows for what im tryna say, which is like its a great plus but nobody really remembers or gives a f*** in the futuer about whether ppl liked them live yknow. It can be a plus to ur aura but I feel like certain things anyway like
    technical rapping ability
    technical singing ability
    performance skill
    are really boring things people focus on that dont matter that much in the big picture. the music is the most important thing. it depends on ur niche ur subgenre ur scene ur time. the performance level expecte din the 60s was higher so a performance like that compared to other 60s top guys is where the criticism for dylan comes supposedly. idk if id agree but like, who cares even if thats true? its great music and its lovely to watch. beyond that it actually also is clear the passion, tis clear the energy, its clear what it does to someone to watch.

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    ay man all im saying is depending on the group thats a controversial opinion it was known as dylan's weakest aspect. i love dylan tho.

    if ur giving me jagger anyway that still allows for what im tryna say, which is like its a great plus but nobody really remembers or gives a f*** in the futuer about whether ppl liked them live yknow. It can be a plus to ur aura but I feel like certain things anyway like
    technical rapping ability
    technical singing ability
    performance skill
    are really boring things people focus on that dont matter that much in the big picture. the music is the most important thing. it depends on ur niche ur subgenre ur scene ur time. the performance level expecte din the 60s was higher so a performance like that compared to other 60s top guys is where the criticism for dylan comes supposedly. idk if id agree but like, who cares even if thats true? its great music and its lovely to watch. beyond that it actually also is clear the passion, tis clear the energy, its clear what it does to someone to watch.

    you said Hendrix too bro like what are we doing here your list of bad performers is closer to a list of the best performers. might as well have said The Who too.

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    Elric

    you said Hendrix too bro like what are we doing here your list of bad performers is closer to a list of the best performers. might as well have said The Who too.

    hendrix not as a guitar player but as a singer, its a bit of a hot take tho but ive heard it a lot, its more accurate to say for singing live that list rather than performance. better examples are like jim morrison, beach boys, deftones, blink 182 all these guys r kinda notorious for their shows not living up to their albums. point is even if you accepted what they said it wouldnt MATTER.

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    Andre Jaquet

    hendrix not as a guitar player but as a singer, its a bit of a hot take tho but ive heard it a lot, its more accurate to say for singing live that list rather than performance. better examples are like jim morrison, beach boys, deftones, blink 182 all these guys r kinda notorious for their shows not living up to their albums. point is even if you accepted what they said it wouldnt MATTER.

    Yeah I can allow Doors and Beach Boys even though I'm obsessed with them. you straight tripping on Bruce, Neil, Bob and Jimmy.

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Elric

    Yeah I can allow Doors and Beach Boys even though I'm obsessed with them. you straight tripping on Bruce, Neil, Bob and Jimmy.

    its not my personal opinion that they arent good live. but its a common thing thats said about their singing live its the most controversial part of their legacy cuz like for the 60s the singing of someone like bruce or dylan was considered rough live and not the best technically. bob was known also for being just inconsistent af live.

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    its not my personal opinion that they arent good live. but its a common thing thats said about their singing live its the most controversial part of their legacy cuz like for the 60s the singing of someone like bruce or dylan was considered rough live and not the best technically. bob was known also for being just inconsistent af live.

    man I been basking in the dust for decades and never heard anybody say this s***. Hendrix maybe for the odd night when he was too f***ed up on d**** but not the other guys.

    Grateful Dead kinda suck at singing alot of the time but still considered beyond legendary live.

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    No, it's just a bonus to me if they are good and it whatever if they aren't

    A performance is a rare thing you're gonna see if you ever do and there's many legends you have never seen live and probably won't

    It's a small part of the whole thing imo and not the main way to hear an artist nor is it the main way they're presented

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    mick jagger was known for kinda sucking at singing live but no one is using it against the rolling stones to say they arent one of the best bands ever. same to dif extents goes for iggy pop, neil young, jimi hendrix, bruce springsteen.

    closest ive come to having a stroke from a ktt post @RVI

  • Jul 30, 2025
    Water Giver

    No, it's just a bonus to me if they are good and it whatever if they aren't

    A performance is a rare thing you're gonna see if you ever do and there's many legends you have never seen live and probably won't

    It's a small part of the whole thing imo and not the main way to hear an artist nor is it the main way they're presented

    exactly. tbh for artists of the past its mostly just aura points

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    man I been basking in the dust for decades and never heard anybody say this s***. Hendrix maybe for the odd night when he was too f***ed up on d**** but not the other guys.

    Grateful Dead kinda suck at singing alot of the time but still considered beyond legendary live.

    idk i feel like the bob thing is super common. i could prolly find people talking about it with a google search. hes just known as like inconsistent live. though the recordings ive seen personally are all great. maybe they mean after the 60s. idk. also ya hendrix thing might just be cuz he was on d**** sometimes lol. some guy in this thread just called bob a bad singer.

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Elric

    Yeah I can allow Doors and Beach Boys even though I'm obsessed with them. you straight tripping on Bruce, Neil, Bob and Jimmy.

    point is still like we arent gonna say the doors or the beach boys arent goats for that

  • rvi 🦜
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    sometimes. depending on case

    there are artists that are legends where performing ability factors into it massively (MJ, Beyonce, Grateful Dead). and some where it doesn't even factor in (ex: Beatles)

    many different ways to make an impact artistically so not fair to judge everyone the same way.

    same way it kinda annoys me when people act like having a masterpiece album is a requirement which disregards artist coming before that era etc.

  • Jul 30, 2025
    rvi

    sometimes. depending on case

    there are artists that are legends where performing ability factors into it massively (MJ, Beyonce, Grateful Dead). and some where it doesn't even factor in (ex: Beatles)

    many different ways to make an impact artistically so not fair to judge everyone the same way.

    same way it kinda annoys me when people act like having a masterpiece album is a requirement which disregards artist coming before that era etc.

    best post in the thread

  • Jul 30, 2025
    Andre Jaquet

    point is still like we arent gonna say the doors or the beach boys arent goats for that

    No we aren't

    Theres definitely footage of them being quite good live back in the day though. Wouldn't say bad unless Jimbo was pissed out of his head and just hanging d*** instead of performing lol.

  • Jul 30, 2025
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    Yes, it's the energy transaction and it goes deeper than just playing the music for your fans
    It's embodying it, give it meaning, giving it life
    It's you showing them how u interprete the songs

    Ofcourse not everyone can dance like Michael Jackson or James Brown

    But see for example a Travis concert, yeah he so called just jumps around and screams, but he's actually really giving his energy and it's actually felt, he's engaging with the audience on a deep emotional and psychological level

    I've seen drake live and this man was whack, he didn't command

    It's what really sells you as an artist, the performance, the magic, creating an understanding between you and your fans, even tho not personal it feels as such

  • Jul 30, 2025
    Andre Jaquet

    idk i feel like the bob thing is super common. i could prolly find people talking about it with a google search. hes just known as like inconsistent live. though the recordings ive seen personally are all great. maybe they mean after the 60s. idk. also ya hendrix thing might just be cuz he was on d**** sometimes lol. some guy in this thread just called bob a bad singer.

    I'm mean yeah from the 80s on you have a good chance of catching Dylan on a bad night but that's part and parcel when you're completely rejiggering every song every night. But he was legendary in his prime.