yeah no f***ing s*** there's some merit

do u think im arguing otherwise...

I'm not saying hes trash im saying hes not top 5

do i need to say again that i like plenty of alchemist beats and i think he's a solid prod

Metro is top tier

Easily

Hes done plenty & he has plenty more full collabs than just those two

If yall dont know bro history then just say that then lol

nah u cant get mels like goyxrd or benji from a kit that's my point

who are ur top 5 rappers rn

i guarantee they use beats with looperman samples

You said that after the fact bro youre original post i REPLIED to didnt stop twisting

Metro is great! Alc has been everywhere for almost 30 years. You just can’t put them in same conversation.

niggas act like looperman aint a click away

like they favorite rappers dont got 99 beats thats just a looperman sample and drums

Lmao

Niggas need to stop

no man i listen to rino lucki tony shhnow ken carson duwap kaine

that's not loops bruh

Most of your original posts yeah you were then you later expanded on it in more depth

man what

did u miss the part where i said i liked a lot of alchemists beats in my first dam post

top 5 at the very least in terms of quality & attention to detail

respect to that man cuz he stays consistent

LUCKI AND KEN CARSON DONT USE LOOPS?

U cant get Alcs style by just simply looping vinyls neither especially since bro usues obscure s*** like MF Doom

My whole point is that its dumb comparing bevause they have nothing to do with each other n involve their own techniques.

But yeah, i dont have an issue with either and im a fan of both.

they don't lmao

this not everyone u kno there's actual producers who make the whole beat themselves right?

im not saying alc worse than looperman mfs. in fact id say most looperman dudes are worse than alc.

im saying the guys who dont use any loops are just more impressive to me

I thot all you said was "yeah guess he cool but never impressed me"

My fault if otherwise.

thread full of niggas that ate glue as kids

yes u can

given two producers have access to the same sample and one is alchemist and the other is benjicold or whoever

yeah man benji could literally loop some s*** and come up w the same thing alc does

i agree w u that maybe alc has uniquely good crate digging skills

but i already said this crate digging and producing are two different skills imo

BRO WHAT

You think sample production even on its most basic level is easy?

Most niggas dont even know how to catch the end of a loop let alone catching it perfectly (especially if they never had experience doing it), and its more than just looping random s*** you have to find pockets that are actually rappable on, & he does more than "just looping" anyways, most the time

Thats just disrespectful n downplaying like hella on the skill it involves in general lol

9th wonder said if he finds a record he literally pulls off every sample possible before someone else gets to it

i like how u said this cus u dont know the rest

and yes they don't use loops.

where did u get the idea they do.

i mean technically u could say ken carson got beats with loops cus there's a team making those beats so some ppl do the mels other ppl do the drums... but the guys who do the mels get as much if not more credit than the guys who do the drums... like ken carsons s*** is known to be produced by hyperpop.jp (group of producers). and these guys are the melody guys