Or its a f***ing useless argument because the same niggas who b**** about Trab’s lack of lyricism wil be in the same threads calling actual lyricists boring
Yup lmao
Their issues isnt lyricism its that their too stupid they need it to be an abc book that is about the most literal thing ever spoken in plain formal english but not too formal where words go over two syllables
You do mind it tho, you're constantly complaining about it, either you do care or you get upset by people praising him so you have to counter it
okay, so it sounds like you’re personally attacked at me saying travis’ writing is bad, that’s kind of your issue and not my problem
his music isn’t bad, he’s just an awful writer, idk what else to tell you
he isn’t but what he does is entertaining and engaging for sure
niggas on here just like to d***ride carti extremely heavy, so in between his aesthetic and being one of the few mainstream artists doing anything remotely subversive or “new” he gets a lot of smoke blown up his ass
I get it. I fw Carti but honestly his stans are making it hard for me to appreciate his music
sometimes I really wonder why i'm still on here
deadass man this site f***ing sucks niggas will b**** about anything
ktt gotta be the only place on earth that cares about travis scott lyrics
randomly bringing ye into it
kanye exhibits more personality throughout just about any song you can pluck at random pre-TLOP than Travis does across an entire album, and people wanna sit here and try to draw comparisons
that’s not even factoring in that Kanye’s production is miles ahead of his anyways
wdym what
grand = cinematic, sounds big, very detailed
psychedelic = lots of layers, heavy reverb, delay
i don't get it? trav has never sounded more crushed by his limited soundscape to me. this album sounds suffocating rather than'big'
okay, so it sounds like you’re personally attacked at me saying travis’ writing is bad, that’s kind of your issue and not my problem
his music isn’t bad, he’s just an awful writer, idk what else to tell you
I don't feel personally attacked by anything, I just don't think travis is any more generic than carti, carti's experimentation is just more in your face.
i don't get it? trav has never sounded more crushed by his limited soundscape to me. this album sounds suffocating rather than'big'
i wasn’t speaking on particularly just UTOPIA albeit i kind of think the grand descriptor fits it too, i was thinking his entire discog like Rodeo and ASTROWORLD
It's because Carti doesn't try to mask the fact he's not lyrical with bells and whistles, ear candy, grand production like Travis
But yet Travis is more coherent than Carti
This travis scotch tape thing isn't catching on bro
it hasn't since i stole it from owl pharaoh era, he still loves to tape scraps together
Kanye's first album literally has more lyrical substance than every Travis album combined
Kanye himself devalued CD and LR after all those comments saying he was phoning it in to sell records to the back pack rap public, plus all the ghostwriters he used
I don't feel personally attacked by anything, I just don't think travis is any more generic than carti, carti's experimentation is just more in your face.
i don’t disagree that Carti’s writing is any less generic, however the way he delivers his lyrics and vocals is what differentiates him
it’s no different with Uzi to an extent imo, Uzi doesn’t write about anything special, but he has a great flow and he can lay down a cool punchline here and there + he has a pretty decent ear for melodies
Kanye himself devalued CD and LR after all those comments saying he was phoning it in to sell records to the back pack rap public, plus all the ghostwriters he used
Who cares
He talked s*** about all of his albums in the past
deadass man this site f***ing sucks niggas will b**** about anything
ktt gotta be the only place on earth that cares about travis scott lyrics
I don't even think they really care they just tryna start s*** with anything
tired of seeing braindeadness in every single thread lately
mods should lock new users' ability to make threads for a period of 6 months or something
Kanye himself devalued CD and LR after all those comments saying he was phoning it in to sell records to the back pack rap public, plus all the ghostwriters he used
He obviously said it to get under kweli's skin
Who cares
He talked s*** about all of his albums in the past
I care, can’t take his rapping seriously. He himself admitted that he didn’t believe in anything he said, he was trying to sell records.
I’m not against kanye but honestly it’s very hard to take his conscious rap seriously. Imagine it came out Nas was using ghostwriters on Illmatic and he was phoning in the verses
it isn’t necessarily just the lack of substance and lyrical content for Travis, it’s that he’s painfully generic and injects little to no personality into any of his vocal performances whatsoever
it’s even worse because some references came out and some of these verses he didn’t even write at all, and instead just copy and pasted lyrics from it with no changes whatsoever lmao
Carti in between his vocal pitch shifts, ad libs and changing inflections, it’s all very unique and standout and you can tell that it’s Carti just how he utilizes his voice alone, which makes up for his lack of lyrical content
i still think he gets a lot of grace on this site anyways though cause niggas like to d***ride
I care, can’t take his rapping seriously. He himself admitted that he didn’t believe in anything he said, he was trying to sell records.
I’m not against kanye but honestly it’s very hard to take his conscious rap seriously. Imagine it came out Nas was using ghostwriters on Illmatic and he was phoning in the verses
Yeah and I don't care
Cope
doesn't really change anything about the music for me anyways, i prefer his 2008-16 stuff
I swear most of the lyrics you guys complain about are either you guys not knowing the slang and/or street metaphor, or you guys need a song to flow like a generic movie script pr else you cant keep up
Who remembers when KTT had a stroke over Kendrick's "Peanut butter insides" (which is just talking about CARS and its color of its INTERIOR), Travis' "Seeet like candy cane" (this one is so brain dead simple, he likens pills to mnms and how "sweet" they are like mnms n CANDY CANES) or the entire first verse of Nights (which is just about Frank being self destructive, hitting rock bottom & having trust issues) etc. LMAO
Niggas wouldnt be able to pass a GED class

doesn't really change anything about the music for me anyways, i prefer his 2008-16 stuff
Yeah the music is good but it’s clearly a product, take the meaning out of conscious rap and what you got left?
His College Dropout and LR raps don’t move me at all, y’all can cope all you want but the true Kanye is Yeezus and TLOP, everything else was him phoning it in to sell records
I assure you that if Kanye could sing like Usher or The Weeknd he would have never made rap music