Just because they’re not certified classics doesn’t make them bad albums. Lots of enjoyable songs.

Was it just a narrative that people ran with because of his antics at the time?

He’s a deranged s***pest on them

idk, the vultures era was so hard

because they both sucl

Nerds don't like sexual themes

The first one was good, the second one put a sour taste

Vultures 1 is f***ing GREAT idc you cannot beat the one-two punch of Beg Forgiveness > GOOD (DON’T DIE)

V2 has some HEATERS on it Slide Promotion River Take Off Your Dress Gun to My Head

Would take that era over Bully era tbh!!! The demoitis was real with that one!!!

I love ‘em

VULTURES 1 was good, VULTURES 2 sucked ass but it had some good songs on it

Could’ve been a classic if the bars weren’t buns

Literally just the second one

Reminds me of how hated Cruel Summer was even though it had bangers on it

GOT MY HEART I LIKE DAT B**** A LOT

YALL go play field trip they removed the song wtf

Yeah Cruel Summer got so much hate. Not a classic but so many good tracks

Don Toliver's label

We were so spoiled back then

GOOD Fridays/MBDTF/WTT right before this

Mercy/Clique/Cold/Don’t Like on a compilation album and we still had the nerve to complain

it's because there's a lot of bullshit you have to sift through and a lot of ALMOST great moments (ie River before it got ruined or Back to Me without that dogshit second Ye verse).

if they cut the bullshit and gave you 12 legit tracks and got out of their own way it would be worthwhile

Peak. OG KTT and Klive forever

Series?
Vultures 1 is cool thanks to Ty
Vultures 2 is AI slop
Vultures 3 doesn't exist

Maybe people hate it because it was so close to be perfect, hell, so many of songs are actually more finished then songs that Ye dropped on Bully, but he put some nice songs behind a pay-wall, couldn't release other songs, and was too lazy to finish other.

I think Vultures era even better then Bully era as I listened to Vultures 1 like 50 times more, and that songs that Ye previewed and that were dropped, they were actually finished songs with finished verses, and not some demo ideas like Beauty and Beast, etc.

Because its ASS

You wouldn't even bother listening to the Ty versions of the Vultures 1 songs. Ye improved all those songs like 10 times over.

The best days bro

River did not get ruined

Vultures 1 is pretty good

Vultures 2 is literal hogwash though