Hudson is the originator of that sound to begin with no discussion

The note they hit on “change” in the hook screams Charlie

but who thinks Justin writes anything really and post-poo bear his biggest songs are just people rerocking poo bears swag

Not even gonna lie I had no idea Cannon did this LMAO

Main sample was Don Cannon, 88 keys added the James Brown sample and Ye added the Hov sample

I hope this ain’t true

You mean without Paid in Full

Music aside (and probably could even bring it up in this argument) but the early A$AP Mob aesthetics were started by Purrp. Rocky and them were dressing and making music like this before Purrp got involved:

Even the hieroglyphics are from
Purrp and everyone thought asap had to do with that lmao

he didn’t lol

wait is he credited for it, who made it was it like Heatmakers?

Yeah they definitely stole all of that unashamedly lol

don’t know if this correlates but i hate how people always say pharrell prod some of the earlier hits, ffs it was him and chad bruh, the neptunes

If it's ever confirmed Cormega ghostwrote for Illmatic then streets as done as far Nas being the goat.

People always think RZA did this

Vocal Bible

To this day, mad people literally never acknowledge Olu Dara's(Nas's dad) contributions to Illmatic.

He played the cornet on Life's A B****.

Mel definitely helped, but it's just that whenever I see his solo production, he always got several musicians that are part of Dre crew credited, such as Elizondo and Camara Kambon. So by the same logic should he be listed as the executive producer only?

Dre participated in production part tho, especially the drums, not just mixing, according to people who worked on the album

That’s crazy.
I don’t think it’s bad that they took inspiration, but I feel like, depending on how similar the songs were, maybe Chuck should have been credited as a co-writer or something.
I always think that making art is an inherently derivative thing on some level, so it’s not productive to worry too much about how much inspiration you take, so long as you make it your own in some way.

I think Dre/Mel have the vision, the underlings flesh it out and then they polish it. But 2001 wouldn't sound like 2001 without Dre for sure, he has tools no one else has in the industry.

Mannie fresh - who let the dogs out

you're kidding

I wouldn't say it's the worst case. He was probably glad his name wasn't attached to it.

Andre 3000 producing a lot of the outkast tracks and almost the entire love below album (and some of speakerboxxx), solo

people only talk about him as a rapper but most dont even know he's also a certified producer

I guess he only came up with the title but I mean doesn’t that kinda make the song

not really cashmere/sinjin make way diff music than him lmao

I didn’t know that; but I also always suspected he was talented at instrumental composition too.
When I was a kid I watched his show, Class of 3000, and iirc he wrote all of the songs for the show basically on his own; and that show had some bops