genre got assimilated entirely into the wider american culture creating a distinct class of black petty bourgeois and bourgeois proper on top of developing its own media appendix that is entirely in agreement with larger american media machine
This exactly what happened
The whole DaBaby Megan Lil Nas X era was the lowest point in Hip Hop, I have experienced as a fan. Full corporate music with nothing behind it.
I would argue this era is just as bad
I would argue this era is just as bad
I am not sure how I would even define this era right now. Who besides Drake, Kendrick and a select few others can be called mainstream acts? I am just enjoying the underground way more atm which is why I think its not as bad as the Covid era
Yall wanted political quietism in the 2000’s and 2010’s and now ur mad af that you got it
Ain’t no yall lol I was a kid in the 2000s bro
It’s still dope music out but I understand where OP is coming from. There is a lack of music that makes you really feel something in the mainstream. Not even songs about politics but just about real life
Some of the best albums of the decade are:
-Clipse album from 2 45+ year olds that’s likely not even their best
-Kendrick morale album that’s not even in his own top 4
-Nas albums that aren’t close to prime Nas
-Freddie Gibbs/Westside Gunn albums. Nothing bad to say about these—but these are middle class rappers..at best lol
-Donda, not even a top 8 Ye project
-bunch of lesser known projects that don’t get any shine in the mainstream.
This is about the mainstream. When complaining about the quality of the genre—it’s always about the top. The underground/middle class of rap has always been fine. It’s the top that leads the way, though.
Then the retort is always “there’s so much good music, you just don’t know where to find it”. No s*** bruh, I grew up and good music was EVERYWHERE. On TV, the radio etc.. you didn’t have to go on a scavenger hunt to find good music. If you think this era is “pretty good” or “not that bad”. Just compare your top 5 favorites from this era with any top 5 of any other era. It ain’t een close lol
I mean you didn’t HAVE to be on the hunt for good music because as a kid you were the purest of consumers. You were just spoon fed art.. but even people our age THEN complained about the music in the mainstream growing up. And they sought out good music whether buying actual albums or the days of searching online.
art should require some sacrifice
also spending money and sitting with albums is cheaper than streaming prices on average id bet. it is for me
i dont think it should require sacrifice lol because the sacrifice isnt equal ur literally gatekeeping knowledge and enjoyment by class the amount of money you make ideally shouldnt bar you from how much music you can enjoy. no i dont wanna sacrifice a part of my ability to eat or pay bills or whatever to be into music as much as i am.
also no its not, not if your listening to a LOT of music. thats why people dont do it. otherwise streaming wouldnt be popular. An album on iTunes costs a month where u could listen to 8 lol.
i dont think it should require sacrifice lol because the sacrifice isnt equal ur literally gatekeeping knowledge and enjoyment by class the amount of money you make ideally shouldnt bar you from how much music you can enjoy. no i dont wanna sacrifice a part of my ability to eat or pay bills or whatever to be into music as much as i am.
also no its not, not if your listening to a LOT of music. thats why people dont do it. otherwise streaming wouldnt be popular. An album on iTunes costs a month where u could listen to 8 lol.
so i have about 40000 songs on my ipod
around 5000 albums
i only have to pay for those (or download) those once. and then never pay again. ive bought 6 albums this year. and sat with them because they are great.
Youre making a really quantitative argument here. i can listen to A LOT of music because i have built up a library over the past 15 years
nothing wrong with sitting with an album for 2 months that you anticipated for a long time. this seems foreign right now exactly because of the point you are making about listening to as much music as possible
so i have about 40000 songs on my ipod
around 5000 albums
i only have to pay for those (or download) those once. and then never pay again. ive bought 6 albums this year. and sat with them because they are great.
Youre making a really quantitative argument here. i can listen to A LOT of music because i have built up a library over the past 15 years
nothing wrong with sitting with an album for 2 months that you anticipated for a long time. this seems foreign right now exactly because of the point you are making about listening to as much music as possible
yea and you priviledged to be able to spend that much money on music lol im listening to atleast 5 new albums a month and most of us cant afford the same thing as you. i can sit with one album while also sitting with other albums. I like not having my listening habits forced by my finances. You dont need months for one album alone to enjoy it or understand it fully. I also get to sit with music i dont anticipate or isnt in what id normally listen to because guess what its not costing a meal. I am glad i didnt miss out on months of new music when i was in poverty. all it means for me to potentially have to spend 50$ a month if im ONLY listening to albums it doesnt account for singles based artists, playlists, genres that arent reliant on the album, and stuff that would be a risk for me to listen to.
yea and you priviledged to be able to spend that much money on music lol im listening to atleast 5 new albums a month and most of us cant afford the same thing as you. i can sit with one album while also sitting with other albums. I like not having my listening habits forced by my finances. You dont need months for one album alone to enjoy it or understand it fully. I also get to sit with music i dont anticipate or isnt in what id normally listen to because guess what its not costing a meal. I am glad i didnt miss out on months of new music when i was in poverty. all it means for me to potentially have to spend 50$ a month if im ONLY listening to albums it doesnt account for singles based artists, playlists, genres that arent reliant on the album, and stuff that would be a risk for me to listen to.
We differ on how we listen that’s okay.
IMO only albums worth living with in the past month is Earl and Beiber
So that’s $20 on music in about 40 days so far. They’ll be the new ones in rotation while also listening to stuff I already own. Next album I’ll buy I couldn’t even tell you. So it’s not like I’m dropping a ton of dollars.
We differ on how we listen that’s okay.
IMO only albums worth living with in the past month is Earl and Beiber
So that’s $20 on music in about 40 days so far. They’ll be the new ones in rotation while also listening to stuff I already own. Next album I’ll buy I couldn’t even tell you. So it’s not like I’m dropping a ton of dollars.
sure yea thats for you thats fine, its just yea a lot of us wanna put time into exploring a variety of music and like being outside the album format, even that 20$ still would be more expensive than my spotify subscription too
it aint just new releases, im going back to all types of music and genres and tiems in history including this month or this year or 5 or 100 ago yknow, me and my friends share songs and playlists with each other we do jams on the aux im listening to multiple on release day here and there im going back to stuff i wrote off a few months ago im making alt tracklists allat
sure yea thats for you thats fine, its just yea a lot of us wanna put time into exploring a variety of music and like being outside the album format, even that 20$ still would be more expensive than my spotify subscription too
it aint just new releases, im going back to all types of music and genres and tiems in history including this month or this year or 5 or 100 ago yknow, me and my friends share songs and playlists with each other we do jams on the aux im listening to multiple on release day here and there im going back to stuff i wrote off a few months ago im making alt tracklists allat
I respect that.