what an awful post

Good thread though my friend. Unfortunately we’re just in an unprecedented time of music not mattering as much especially within hip hop. The beef the straw that broke the camel’s back

Niggas these days are proud to be slow. They’ll then around and think you weird just for trying

Shareholder value

Jeezy and TI were actual literates tho

Buncha dumb motherfuckers down South so it's not a surprise once they took over mainstream rap started to get dumber.

The illiterates are proving your point lmao

I mean I’d figured the lil pocket forums were the last line of defense for genuine discussion but the freestyle thread is nauseating to say the least.

I think with emceeing you only get better with time as you are basically practicing scheme repetition to the point you end up discovering tighter pockets within combinations of words you were already used to saying. why I think writing is important and why it was dope to hear Dot writes the same way as me: come up with the words first then build everything around it

it’s like an artist doing a slowed down or alternative rendition of their song but you can hardly even tell outside of the background sounds that have been chosen. same words, same flow/cadence, but a tighter pockets has been found where when you listen closely they might be elongating the ends of a word or emphasizing a different aspect of the verse despite it being literally the exact same song, and the result is an entirely new feeling supported by the change in sound

I feel like with the limits you said, it gets harder as a singer cause you can’t recreate a pitch your voice can no longer reach or sink down into, therefore clearly defining a peak

Ppl so superficial now

Literacy in general is at an all time low. Lotta these gen z & alpha kids legit cannot read, or count change out properly.

By design.

In tune with your original topic, most criticisms calling out rap fandom or rap in general get danced around with some deflection that tries to invalidate the original criticism

It’s the new(ish) form of trying to not sound like a cliche old head while not being able to completely disagree with the criticism lmao

This

And you were calling a hating old nigga if you criticized this at any point in the process so we collectively just had to sit back and let it happen

This is both Kanye and drake’s worst indictment during their era of rap when they were the ones who took us from many of the cliches in rap in the 2000s

The dichotomy of innovating vs trying not to lose your “spot”

Yo like the bird. That;s wild

niggas talking 10 years ago the dudes y’all put on a pedestal aren’t potent enough examples to effect the trajectory of music in the here and now, even with the numbers

Found one of the illiterates

i've seen the same people who purposefully misconstrue drake bars to downplay it cry that others are not interested in Jay's slam poetry raps. lets be honest, its not about literacy, its about which side you're on. and jay does not have enough cultural capital to be dissing drake, nicki, and kanye without a beat while looking like eazy-e on stage

Not only that niggas is addicted to hot takes and engagement, s*** is disgusting.

who do I put on pedestal?

Yeah they’re not the new ATL. The new ATL is basically Migos, Future and Thug. Niggas wanted to be like THEM. lmao

Explains all the bs music dudes b listening to