insertcoolnamehere

4mo

laughs in Nigerian yan dudu tribe (a historical queer community that predates Islamic influence in Northern Nigeria, these men dressed and behaved in ways traditionally associated with women.)

You gotta understand there was a time before Islam and Christianity. Hell, the Ifa religion in Nigeria, there's multiple names for Olodumare (the "big homie") that implies a different genders which imo makes sense, if you God the creator of everything and nothing, it's hubris to assign any gender to the being that literally created everything and nothing

The pre-colonial world was very loose with sexuality because...well there wasn't really a set of rules. Obviously with different societies I'm sure there were some folks that aint rock with homosexuality but the "kill the gays" s*** that is being pushed now was not a thing when there were tombs in Ancient Egypt that revealed two male bodies embracing each other (Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep)

There's a book called Boy Wives and Female-Husbands that go into detail of all the non-hetero practices that happened in Africa. Hell, there's san bushmen (Zimbabwe) cave paintings from 2000 years ago that depicted men in intercourse.

Two Spirit wasn't just a native american thing.

A lot of what we hear about African homosexuality is told through a colonial European lens, y'know the same people that imported Christian oppressive doctrine to the land of Africa even though they themselves admitted:

Sir Richard Burton, who once proclaimed queerness as exogenous to sub-Saharan Africa to the point of literally excising such practices from his map ironically, acknowledged 16th Century Portuguese sources which observed instances of male homosexuality among the Kongo tribe. These sources, penned by European travellers, spoke of men who refused to wear traditionally masculine clothes and who “served as passive women in the ‘abominable sin’” (Murray & Roscoe, p.142).

tl;dr: Niggas been gay dawg lol.

UncMC

5mo

To be as blunt as possible, how else are repatriations to be paid to the descendants of American slavery if theres no way to distinguish who from who

That’s the only reason I’d co-sign any Ados agenda

Shadow374

4mo

This idea that homosexuality was only rebuked by society because of European influence is straight up ignorant. The two most influential texts that shaped humanity (the bible and quran) both condemn homosexuality and neither came from Europeans

Dxtr

4mo

How come there isn’t the same for Cuban niggas or Dominicans that were enslaved hundreds of years ago but only is it black Americans that gets counterattacked. Is it because of proximity to white Americans or how influential black Americans are

Babaláwo

4mo

Black Americans are their own ethnic group, and are right for asserting it. The issue comes when you get all that “I ain’t from Africa” s***. You are African you lil nigga.

Babaláwo

4mo

Black Americans are their own ethnic group, and are right for asserting it. The issue comes when you get all that “I ain’t from Africa” s***. You are African you lil nigga.

Oblivion X

4mo

Just copying my post from the other thread

"The concept behind FBA/ADOS and establishing a well defined cultural identity should be encouraged. Like African American or Black as a moniker can be confusing for several reasons and defining a unique ethnic group by their race doesn't make any sense.

But the problem with the FBA/ADOS groups is that their ethos are extremely xenophobic and use a lot of white supremacist talking points and comes from the perspective that their ancestors were never African at all which also doesn't make sense.

But yes there should be a new moniker. Feel like its particularly challenging because America is like a blackhole when it comes to cultural identity, which is why it was easier for Caribbean countries to do it"

Scratchin Mamba

4mo

There's something rly weird about how black people are perceived to embody gender in the eyes of cacs

You got the classic white boy acting like whatever archetype of black guy is in style for his age, the white gay dude acting like black women, white lesbians acting like Jadakiss

They get into it so much they lose the plot and forget they're cacs

Fam

4mo

I'm of caribbean descent and I'm sayin' they need to stop playin', if you black your ancestors are African
We came from the same boat, some of us had to just get out a stop or 2 earlier, or were moved by the the dutch and the french rather than the brits

TUNDRA IV

4mo

I feel like there's a large elephant in the room and no one is addressing it lmao

TUNDRA IV

4mo

as much as this is true from a pan-african lens (which should be the ultimate goal) this is largely where the problem comes from though. Its the crunching and flattening of black experiences into one....outside of the Tariq Nasheed bullshit (that accounts for the xenophobia cult s***) that's kind of the reasoning behind FBA