Pusha T a rap nepo baby. Pharrell and Ye did more for him than he did for himself

Wayne is doing exactly what he’s always done which is the problem here

lol if you think that’s what I said, you’re really bad at reading

Still waiting for you to post a beat big dog

But he can rap n has talent so who cares. The album is good n lots of his music is good so who cares

This makes no sense in response to what I said

Eh he doesn’t have anywhere near the talent Wayne has. But nerds who are very invested in the idea of “perfect discographies” that grew up on Fantano think that because pusha gets better beats he’s a better rapper than Wayne, or even a better artist, which isn’t true.

They say that but won’t acknowledge why all these top tier legendary producers go out of the way to produce for him

I am pretty sure this site didn’t suddenly decide to start hating wayne over his 19th bad album in a row or over the second/arguably third disappointment in the carter series. But alright man

this is where that whole " Wayne only listens to Wayne. Wayne doesn't know who anyone is(I.E. Thinking 21 Savage was a group)" thing came back to bite him

Tad bit exaggerating there aren’t we?

ohh my bad I missed the s

No not at all. It’s not a coincidence that the biggest Kendrick d*** suckers (you) are the loudest voices in this anti Wayne crusade. I mean, you’re even getting all defensive about it

Wayne ain’t drop anything worse than C6 and the fix before C6 in his career, no conspiracy can excuse that type garbage from him

Hating the greatest rapper of all time because he made bad albums is crazy he still got more classic songs than anybody we can excuse him for having some bad projects

We’re docking points because great producers want to work with him?

they saying anything itt

Wayne was hated most of his career
"Real" rap fans were hating on him for being "mumble" when he got big
He got hella hate for rebirth
Ianahb too
When he said there wasnt racism
List goes on

Some of yall just dont know history at all i dontgetit

It doesn't even have to be a "perfect" discography thing. Wayne hasn't made anything I like in over 10 years. Yah I revisit his prime but Pusha T has made more music that I like over his career than Wayne. I won't argue Wayne is more talented, Push probably wouldn't even argue that.

Wayne is higher on my all time list too just from the impact, the influence, the peak, but I think Push has gotten the best out of P and Ye as producers and absolutely capitalized on it and that's why he's regarded as highly as he is.

Lord Willin and HHNF don't sound like any else, they're timeless and sound great today still. Daytona is incredible, and him and his brother are basically 50 making high quality music that stays true to themselves but also sounds fresh. Does P play a big role in that? Absolutely. But that's like saying an NFL QB should be thought of as lesser than cause he played with elite talent around him

beyond ass album aside, he's one of (if not arguably) the most important rappers of all time. all we can hope is that this (and other recent events) light a fire under his ass

“Anti Wayne crusade”

Pharrell wanted to break a VA act. Pusha was carried to that opportunity by his older brother Malice, who was the superior rapper

Kanye needed a ghost writer who would also get him coke. Ghost writers don’t need to be charismatic or creative so it was perfect for push. Ye also probably liked that he could use Pusha as a Hov stand in when he couldn’t get Hov

Then Pharrell fell off and wanted to get some nostalgia bait going so got back with Clipse

“Yah I revisit his prime but Pusha T has made more music that I like over his career than Wayne. “

See this is just insane and it’s an invalid take. You’re just talking albums then? Because there’s no doubt Wayne has more great songs than pusha does.

Wayne lost