There are definitely eras when certain genres hit a peak, craft wise.

Nobody gonna say soul music is in a better place now then when Sam Cook, Otis Redding, Ray Charles, Nina Simone, Aretha Franklin, Levi Stubbs etc were in their prime.

I do associate a lot of that music I mentioned with growing up yeah but there's plenty of music I like today
I'd hate for it to boil down to some kinda psychological quandary where my mind only associates music in adolescence with goodness

Real BRAVE, yeah I was being conservative but 96-97 seems correct too

nah keep that s*** up brave

you was schpittin

S*** nobody born after 1996 save for a handful of artists spread throughout genres tbh

Real

Maybe
But without it we wouldn't have trap music so

nah it’s really not that bad but I think it’s a reflection of how people consume music as a whole now, even a Drake release isn’t impacting how it would in the past.

During CLB, Scorpion or any of his 2020 albums there were tons more troll and comparison threads being made. Most people now just talk about it in the iceman thread

1996 shoutout zone 6. not all trap music needs a DAW nor relied on it. that s*** just took over music in general

It's probably not far off to say that maybe we feel music was better before because the times are congruent with the music
access and how that access (streaming) shapes how people choose to make music

someone said DAW which I've thought of before and somewhat agree with
music making being so accessible today to anyone with a passing thought and zero music theory definitely may have watered down music today

social media of course
there's a lot of factors that line up with the acceleration of tech and access that's muddied music quality over the years

It’s not just psychological, but it’s also societal. Adolescence is the time most people spend actively seeking out and engaging with new music, going out to events where music is being played, regularly going to concerts, etc.

Once people reach adult age with full-time jobs and families to take care, a lot of people stop dedicating as much time as they used to for seeking out art.

So in their mind, “everything sucks now”, but in reality they just don’t engage with it in the same way that they used to

It's probably ruined more than this site tbh. Niggas who think the rap game lives/dies on Drake's success... no bro you're just a Drake stan lol its ok.

Why are people discussing other artists itt? Drake just dropped 3 phenomenal albums that sold 700k combined first week.

oh true
idk why I felt like trap music started with daws
niggas just used beat machines which makes sense

First of all, this is completely discounting and belittling an entire genre of music

Second of all, the DAW itself is not the problem, but instead how some people use the DAW. AI is the opposite.

I’m looking at the recently active threads and it’s literally all Drake lol these stans finally got let out for recess

while I agree as you get older you become more stagnant and "solidified" in what you like

like how after a certain point people just stop listening to new music and stick to the s*** they know

the thing is though I feel like you usually arrive to the conclusion of feeling like music has gotten worse if you're an avid music listener

I disagree. To me, it’s a bell curve

I mean them niggas were literally getting bullied for like 2 years straight

I low-key don't blame them for having their moment rn

Real

Anyone who thinks music has gotten better or even stayed the same in the last 10 years is just wrong lol

Really the 20th century has the 21st wiped down and I don’t think that’s a hot take for music enthusiasts. 20th century music and recording is just on another level

it’s just a comment dawg, I actively use a DAW every day and see how it has changed music

the biggest album in the world right now has a YouTube type beat on the intro, no live musicians on the entire project lmfao. s*** has shifted and many people’s ears aren’t tuned to the digitization of instrument sounds which is why artist like Paak tour well or a local musician can play a live band every weekend at a popular bar

Real. Isnt there some live piano tho lol?

I get what you mean though, I think it’s the “structure” of daws that have taken something away from music. It’s made music more rigid and predictable

2words has point with hiphop requiring you to have good reading and writing skills, especially in nyc when grammar was core to the curriculum and had mandatory testing (Regents ELA test).

But hiphop has been getting watered down lyrically since the 2000s.

I think it’s more to do with hip hop being the biggest genre in music during the 2000-2010s. Most people hear a song and want to have fun not a***yze lyrics. Like most people don’t read Shakespeare and Langston Hughes for fun.

Like feel so good by mase isn’t the most poetic song ever but it’s REALLY fun.

Also its like the duty of new young artists to make music that will make the older generations go

Since the 50s at least