Oct 30, 2023·1 reply
Smacked VoodooY'all be calling people old cause they ain't tryna listen to some f***in Ken Carson or Teezo Touchdown or whatever trendy industry backed horseshit y'all creaming yourselves over. Whole time it's a bunch of new, or in the case of Teezo, artists who are actually young out there who are legitimately talented and us "old heads" do like that are unfortunately not getting the shine they deserve cause y'all rather big up bullshit.
i fw teezo but ken carson stinks. it’s funny when you see the young heads trying to explain why ken is good and they can’t 😭
Oct 30, 2023
notbrockIt’s also cause most of them didn’t really build “career’s”
They did everything they could to cheat a way into the spotlight and had no way to sustain themselves once they got there
you're absolutely correct. Youtube been recommending me these videos on the downfall of certain soundcloud rappers and it's crazy how quick these guys came and went, and their come up usually comes with them just finessing their way into stardom or some s***
Oct 30, 2023The funny thing is OP can be read as a criticism of the new school that he’s trying to defend lmao
- Oct 30, 2023
Also OP must be 15 bro lmao
Bro thinks the 25 year old “old people” love Nas
Most 25 year olds are NOT listening to Nas
Us late 20s+ are the Nas fans lmao
Oct 30, 2023
Prezold people get cancer more than young people but its kinda f***ed up to insult them for it
u back
- Oct 30, 2023·5 replies
MoscatoNah niggas were saying this exact same s*** in the late 2000s/early 2010s
I think the distinction back then was that the old heads didn't like how the image of the hard gangsta rapper was fading away for a more soft or conscious backpack rapper, or "nerd" to put it simply. Dudes like Wale and Drake are the prime examples I use for the late 2000s and early 2010s. Most people would acknowledge they were talented rappers, but their subject matter was viewed as soft or corny.
Growing up in that 2000s era, I don't remember it being old heads calling those kinda rappers untalented because you'd have dudes like Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, Common, Mos Def, Murs, Talib, Little Brother, DOOM, etc, the backpackers pretty much, who were able to rap their asses off. They just weren't gangsta rappers or had that image or subject matter (mostly because Little Brother and DOOM definitely had some tracks getting that kinda stuff off)
These days the main critique of new rappers being trash is that a lot of them legitimately can't rap well, they get by with singing and melodies, they don't really talk about much - which isn't inherently wrong because gangsta rappers back then didn't say much on their tracks. But the fact that they could actually rap well allowed them to get away with it. And worst of all, they don't really have an identity that allows them to stand out on their own. It's like the clone wars out here.
There also seems to be a lack of staying power with new rappers. And that is either a result of there being a lack of talent or them being a one trick pony. Or because so many of these new rappers be sounding the same. Listeners don't have much incentive to get attached to new rappers because the "updated" version of them is gonna pop up in a few months.
Oct 30, 2023
HURRY UP TWOOh so you think a label is the only way to support artist you like? Because their only motivation is gains idk why you even brought labels up when we’re talking about supporting artist that already don’t get exposure
Yeah, but he’s saying the moment they get a little tread with fans and a bigger talent comes to you, you’re essentially going to ‘sell out’ to just get what you came for, money. People aren’t interested in making quality music these days and I think it has everything to do with exposure and seeing how you can monetize so quickly without much effort.
Oct 30, 2023·1 replySmacked VoodooI think the distinction back then was that the old heads didn't like how the image of the hard gangsta rapper was fading away for a more soft or conscious backpack rapper, or "nerd" to put it simply. Dudes like Wale and Drake are the prime examples I use for the late 2000s and early 2010s. Most people would acknowledge they were talented rappers, but their subject matter was viewed as soft or corny.
Growing up in that 2000s era, I don't remember it being old heads calling those kinda rappers untalented because you'd have dudes like Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, Common, Mos Def, Murs, Talib, Little Brother, DOOM, etc, the backpackers pretty much, who were able to rap their asses off. They just weren't gangsta rappers or had that image or subject matter (mostly because Little Brother and DOOM definitely had some tracks getting that kinda stuff off)
These days the main critique of new rappers being trash is that a lot of them legitimately can't rap well, they get by with singing and melodies, they don't really talk about much - which isn't inherently wrong because gangsta rappers back then didn't say much on their tracks. But the fact that they could actually rap well allowed them to get away with it. And worst of all, they don't really have an identity that allows them to stand out on their own. It's like the clone wars out here.
There also seems to be a lack of staying power with new rappers. And that is either a result of there being a lack of talent or them being a one trick pony. Or because so many of these new rappers be sounding the same. Listeners don't have much incentive to get attached to new rappers because the "updated" version of them is gonna pop up in a few months.
Listeners don't have much incentive to get attached to new rappers because the "updated" version of them is gonna pop up in a few months
damn bruh i never looked at it that way tbh
Oct 30, 2023Smacked VoodooI think the distinction back then was that the old heads didn't like how the image of the hard gangsta rapper was fading away for a more soft or conscious backpack rapper, or "nerd" to put it simply. Dudes like Wale and Drake are the prime examples I use for the late 2000s and early 2010s. Most people would acknowledge they were talented rappers, but their subject matter was viewed as soft or corny.
Growing up in that 2000s era, I don't remember it being old heads calling those kinda rappers untalented because you'd have dudes like Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, Common, Mos Def, Murs, Talib, Little Brother, DOOM, etc, the backpackers pretty much, who were able to rap their asses off. They just weren't gangsta rappers or had that image or subject matter (mostly because Little Brother and DOOM definitely had some tracks getting that kinda stuff off)
These days the main critique of new rappers being trash is that a lot of them legitimately can't rap well, they get by with singing and melodies, they don't really talk about much - which isn't inherently wrong because gangsta rappers back then didn't say much on their tracks. But the fact that they could actually rap well allowed them to get away with it. And worst of all, they don't really have an identity that allows them to stand out on their own. It's like the clone wars out here.
There also seems to be a lack of staying power with new rappers. And that is either a result of there being a lack of talent or them being a one trick pony. Or because so many of these new rappers be sounding the same. Listeners don't have much incentive to get attached to new rappers because the "updated" version of them is gonna pop up in a few months.
It’s 2023 but I’m seeing fax
- Oct 30, 2023·1 replySmacked Voodoo
I think the distinction back then was that the old heads didn't like how the image of the hard gangsta rapper was fading away for a more soft or conscious backpack rapper, or "nerd" to put it simply. Dudes like Wale and Drake are the prime examples I use for the late 2000s and early 2010s. Most people would acknowledge they were talented rappers, but their subject matter was viewed as soft or corny.
Growing up in that 2000s era, I don't remember it being old heads calling those kinda rappers untalented because you'd have dudes like Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, Common, Mos Def, Murs, Talib, Little Brother, DOOM, etc, the backpackers pretty much, who were able to rap their asses off. They just weren't gangsta rappers or had that image or subject matter (mostly because Little Brother and DOOM definitely had some tracks getting that kinda stuff off)
These days the main critique of new rappers being trash is that a lot of them legitimately can't rap well, they get by with singing and melodies, they don't really talk about much - which isn't inherently wrong because gangsta rappers back then didn't say much on their tracks. But the fact that they could actually rap well allowed them to get away with it. And worst of all, they don't really have an identity that allows them to stand out on their own. It's like the clone wars out here.
There also seems to be a lack of staying power with new rappers. And that is either a result of there being a lack of talent or them being a one trick pony. Or because so many of these new rappers be sounding the same. Listeners don't have much incentive to get attached to new rappers because the "updated" version of them is gonna pop up in a few months.
Thank you for this distinction cuz people always try to do that strawman argument when there's nuances as to why previous generations got clowned on.
Even when the 80s rappers disparaged the 90's rappers it was more so they didn't like the gangster image they were promoting as opposed to the pro black / conscious stuff they were doing in their time
- Oct 30, 2023Smacked Voodoo
I think the distinction back then was that the old heads didn't like how the image of the hard gangsta rapper was fading away for a more soft or conscious backpack rapper, or "nerd" to put it simply. Dudes like Wale and Drake are the prime examples I use for the late 2000s and early 2010s. Most people would acknowledge they were talented rappers, but their subject matter was viewed as soft or corny.
Growing up in that 2000s era, I don't remember it being old heads calling those kinda rappers untalented because you'd have dudes like Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, Common, Mos Def, Murs, Talib, Little Brother, DOOM, etc, the backpackers pretty much, who were able to rap their asses off. They just weren't gangsta rappers or had that image or subject matter (mostly because Little Brother and DOOM definitely had some tracks getting that kinda stuff off)
These days the main critique of new rappers being trash is that a lot of them legitimately can't rap well, they get by with singing and melodies, they don't really talk about much - which isn't inherently wrong because gangsta rappers back then didn't say much on their tracks. But the fact that they could actually rap well allowed them to get away with it. And worst of all, they don't really have an identity that allows them to stand out on their own. It's like the clone wars out here.
There also seems to be a lack of staying power with new rappers. And that is either a result of there being a lack of talent or them being a one trick pony. Or because so many of these new rappers be sounding the same. Listeners don't have much incentive to get attached to new rappers because the "updated" version of them is gonna pop up in a few months.
And also you're right about people switching up on new rappers.
This site does it all the time tbh lmao
Oct 30, 2023New music= music cancer
- Oct 30, 2023SegaDreamFlash
Thank you for this distinction cuz people always try to do that strawman argument when there's nuances as to why previous generations got clowned on.
Even when the 80s rappers disparaged the 90's rappers it was more so they didn't like the gangster image they were promoting as opposed to the pro black / conscious stuff they were doing in their time
S*** my pops told me that rappers in the 70s and 80s didn't like the new wave of gangsta and street rap that was beginning to rise in the mid-late 80s and throughout the 90s because it was basically "scaring the hoes" and people couldn't breakdance or party to that aggressive s***
Even back then they would say it was promoting a negative image of the Black community and violence to the youth. Some eventually accepted it/got over it because it was a reality going on during the crack era and rampant crime in these cities however. But the idea of "who is able to party to this?" still remained a bit.
- Oct 30, 2023Sir Swagalot
Listeners don't have much incentive to get attached to new rappers because the "updated" version of them is gonna pop up in a few months
damn bruh i never looked at it that way tbh
Like I'm starting to notice it more lately and I'm sure it's intentional Labels just popping out these lil whoever tf's every few months to get some quick cash off the latest trend and then they're pretty much done. Deep in the one hit wonder phase of the modern mainstream rap.
- Oct 30, 2023
16 year olds will LOOOOVE a new artist so much like as if that artist is gonna be around and then boom they are 17 years old and listening to another 11 new artists like the phrase Flavor of the Month was never introduced to them lmaooo it just it what it is
source: former kid
Oct 30, 2023Smacked VoodooI think the distinction back then was that the old heads didn't like how the image of the hard gangsta rapper was fading away for a more soft or conscious backpack rapper, or "nerd" to put it simply. Dudes like Wale and Drake are the prime examples I use for the late 2000s and early 2010s. Most people would acknowledge they were talented rappers, but their subject matter was viewed as soft or corny.
Growing up in that 2000s era, I don't remember it being old heads calling those kinda rappers untalented because you'd have dudes like Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, Common, Mos Def, Murs, Talib, Little Brother, DOOM, etc, the backpackers pretty much, who were able to rap their asses off. They just weren't gangsta rappers or had that image or subject matter (mostly because Little Brother and DOOM definitely had some tracks getting that kinda stuff off)
These days the main critique of new rappers being trash is that a lot of them legitimately can't rap well, they get by with singing and melodies, they don't really talk about much - which isn't inherently wrong because gangsta rappers back then didn't say much on their tracks. But the fact that they could actually rap well allowed them to get away with it. And worst of all, they don't really have an identity that allows them to stand out on their own. It's like the clone wars out here.
There also seems to be a lack of staying power with new rappers. And that is either a result of there being a lack of talent or them being a one trick pony. Or because so many of these new rappers be sounding the same. Listeners don't have much incentive to get attached to new rappers because the "updated" version of them is gonna pop up in a few months.
His name was Bingo
Oct 30, 2023·2 repliesjordani fw teezo but ken carson stinks. it’s funny when you see the young heads trying to explain why ken is good and they can’t 😭
I've been trying to enjoy ken since before project x or whatever and I don't get it
Dudes on reddit calling me out on hating new rap so I mention following Carti since 2015, then get called an old head
Can't f***in win
- Oct 30, 2023·1 replyFever
I've been trying to enjoy ken since before project x or whatever and I don't get it
Dudes on reddit calling me out on hating new rap so I mention following Carti since 2015, then get called an old head
Can't f***in win
Man I said I been listening to Carti back when he was with Awful and I get called washed or a geezer. I'm like what does that make Carti then
- Oct 30, 2023Smacked Voodoo
Man I said I been listening to Carti back when he was with Awful and I get called washed or a geezer. I'm like what does that make Carti then
Exactly why I learned about him. He was on stage with father and I remember being annoyed like I just want father lmao
Plus I think I'm the same age as Carti
- Oct 30, 2023
The funniest s*** is getting called old for not liking Teezo and that nigga is older than me
- Oct 30, 2023·1 reply
I remember when Chief Keef first dropped Faneto ya know!
Yes, yes that's right grandpa, let's put you onto Cochise...
- Oct 30, 2023·1 replySmacked Voodoo
I remember when Chief Keef first dropped Faneto ya know!
Yes, yes that's right grandpa, let's put you onto Cochise...
"I feel like chief keef in 2012"
Grandfather, you have Alzheimer's
Oct 30, 2023Smacked Voodoo"they want rap to sound like the same s*** from their times for all eternity, with no improvement, sad."
Nah. We actually just want the new s*** coming out to stop being f***ing garbage. Really not asking for much.
Oct 30, 2023
SuperPorkbig fax, like shut the f*** up you old heads. nobody listens to dusty ass Nas
He’s sooooooo good
- Oct 30, 2023Fever
"I feel like chief keef in 2012"
Grandfather, you have Alzheimer's
“ I think I'm Big Meech, Larry Hoover”
