Pulp Fiction onehundredpercent deserves to be here
I’m just speaking objectively, and based on impact
So does The Social Network or Fight Club
So does The Empire Strikes Back
Jaws probably does
The Wizard of Oz
I think when you’re compiling a list of the greatest films of all time, you should take at least some consideration for what is iconic in the culture
This list has always been more about significant films than popular good movies. Pulp Fiction is a great movie. Especially Fight Club is one of my favorites but they are not as relevant as you think they are. A lot of the classics here actually changed the landscape, even though it might not be visible to someone who just watches the more popular good stuff like Tarantino, Fincher etc
watch more films , you sound goofy af
I ain’t even a Tarantino stan like that
But excuse me for wanting some representation for filmmakers that are actually influencing the culture and the future of cinema
Pulp Fiction is essential
Pulp Fiction onehundredpercent deserves to be here
I’m just speaking objectively, and based on impact
So does The Social Network or Fight Club
So does The Empire Strikes Back
Jaws probably does
The Wizard of Oz
I think when you’re compiling a list of the greatest films of all time, you should take at least some consideration for what is iconic in the culture
whose culture? All of those options put together seems pretty American centric. Maybe you can ballot for AFI but this is BFI. I think arguments about iconicness always betray some cultural bias rather than any attempt to really represent a fuller spectrum of cinematic productions. Titanic is pretty Iconic too but I'm glad it got left off the list. The Wizard of Oz would be cool but I think putting Singing in the Rain sorta represents that sort of filmmaking along with The Red Shoes to a degree
I believe those art Marty’s picks for this list
I think you can see what every director chose
Word I’m tryna find a link. Do you have one?
Pulp Fiction onehundredpercent deserves to be here
I’m just speaking objectively, and based on impact
So does The Social Network or Fight Club
So does The Empire Strikes Back
Jaws probably does
The Wizard of Oz
I think when you’re compiling a list of the greatest films of all time, you should take at least some consideration for what is iconic in the culture
I agree 100%…I just find it funny when some niggas write off a movie just because it’s popular
Word I’m tryna find a link. Do you have one?
its in the print magazine at this time, not online yet
its in the print magazine at this time, not online yet
The pic Sace posted was from online so figured there’s a link
I'm glad Tarantino got left off (bc I'm a professional hater) but really his films probably split voters too.
whose culture? All of those options put together seems pretty American centric. Maybe you can ballot for AFI but this is BFI. I think arguments about iconicness always betray some cultural bias rather than any attempt to really represent a fuller spectrum of cinematic productions. Titanic is pretty Iconic too but I'm glad it got left off the list. The Wizard of Oz would be cool but I think putting Singing in the Rain sorta represents that sort of filmmaking along with The Red Shoes to a degree
The American centric criticism is valid
This is fair
I will think about these points
Meanwhile, I will pose an entirely different point
It seems like there’s a bias towards drama
I don’t think I see much comedy / horror / action
This list has always been more about significant films than popular good movies. Pulp Fiction is a great movie. Especially Fight Club is one of my favorites but they are not as relevant as you think they are. A lot of the classics here actually changed the landscape, even though it might not be visible to someone who just watches the more popular good stuff like Tarantino, Fincher etc
it's less that the BFI picks are 'more significant' but rather that they are appealing to a different crowd than the IMDB/Reddit crowd that influences (and perhaps overrepresents) online opinions about what movies should be considered 'top tier modern iconic classics' (to online filmbro culture). One could position this list as a reaction to those crowds, but I think its more likely that the two groups just never overlapped that much
I'm glad Tarantino got left off (bc I'm a professional hater) but really his films probably split voters too.
Ewww. #1 fan here

Realest list hell even slappers
The American centric criticism is valid
This is fair
I will think about these points
Meanwhile, I will pose an entirely different point
It seems like there’s a bias towards drama
I don’t think I see much comedy / horror / action
I agree with that, regarding genre. I think movie and literature crowds tend to privilege the drama/non-'genre' stuff when discussing 'high art.' If someone submitted a ballot for a future list that was all horror or comedy I think that would be very reasonable. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) or Suspiria (1977) would have been cool. I'd also love to see Cat People or another much older horror movie (Godzilla! Frankenstein! Dracula!), maybe even Ringu or Pulse
it's less that the BFI picks are 'more significant' but rather that they are appealing to a different crowd than the IMDB/Reddit crowd that influences (and perhaps overrepresents) online opinions about what movies should be considered 'top tier modern iconic classics' (to online filmbro culture). One could position this list as a reaction to those crowds, but I think its more likely that the two groups just never overlapped that much
I hear ya. Different crowd. I do understand the idea that these popular films get shine all the time, and I’m sorta stepping on one of the few chances to honor older classics. I just question any list that feels like it conforms to strict standards. To be entirely real, I haven’t seen a lot of the films on the list. I want to. Eventually. But I do notice a lot of repeats from directors. I would have also liked to see the list pull a little more evenly from each decade. Maybe I’d see the vision more if I watched all these films.
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