Posted stats. Maybe read the full convo before replying

You did not mention almost every quality of life statistic u handpicked a few out of the dozens if not hundreds

These are your "stats"? More likely to die at work?

Yeah tbh women have been forced to be built ford tough through their history. I think men are coming down to the stress levels that women had to deal with for the past thousands of years. So now things are coming to an equilibiurm. However, men aren't used to things not being served to them on a silver platter anymore or women having equal power in s***or money (western world view).

He does, he let the mask slip, but he'll reply to you and say he doesn't because his social programming told him he has to pretend to care about mental health

I think we can read that a lot of people here have nuance. To be fair, if you kill yourself cause of misandry or you can't get p**** then tough luck my dude. Why kill yourself when you can just turn your swag on and get money?

no but when someone says we kill ourselves because we are men and not because of an actual tangible reason, it's just hard for me to take it seriously

think for one second and consider how none of those things you listed are the fault of women

"when someone says we kill ourselves because we are men and not because of an actual tangible reason"

lol who said this?

Like we can care about mental health if you actively want to get help, do the work, and show you have a goal to improve things despite life's hardships.

However, if you want to hurt yourself just because life is "harder for men," then that's goofy.

If a woman kills herself over men being mean to her in the same way, are you also going to tell her its her fault?

Or is she different because, well, ya know.

this thread is about misandry. you're using a higher suicide rate amongst men to support it. you said it

I literally said in the same comment that misandry from women towards men isn't an actual thing. But I guess niggas dont actually read lol

Never said they were. I said its the fault of society. That includes men and women

letting the mask slip = not falling for the same loser bullshit you fell for

i don't think 35% is misandry as much as it is not being easy to be a young woman today

it was never easy to be a young woman actually

Okay being mean vs bullying and harrassment is different. Nuance my guy. If a dude was being harrassed and stalked by a woman, then I would have empathy. If a duded killed himself cause he was a weirdo and got no p****, then meh. Same for a woman. If dudes were just being mean and called her names, then she should have thick skin as an adult.

I support men's health and mental stability as long we as men hold ourselves accountable to ourselves. We support and drive this bullshit in the first place. If you can't tell your homies you love them without being called gay, then you are part of the problem.

Thing is you're dealing with real people who get frustrated from their issues being sidelined for so long, and yet they still get the finger wag and are scolded for not falling in line with neat resolutions that they already tried for through raising awareness, but didn't see much progress. These sentiments are nothing new. There were militant suffragists along with constitutional ones in history.

Not to merge two topics or nothing, but this is the same framing I see with " insert resistance group here are terrorists" rhetoric.

Real

yeah idk what to say man all the s*** being listed itt is just men being mad at stigmas men created for themselves

Who do you think holds more power and determines the rules of society between men and women? Historically and currently? Answer that and you'll see why I'm largely unsympathetic towards "Life is harder for men" takes

Periods (discomfort every month, the expenses involved, 3rd world countries where women/girls don't even have access to sanitary products), rape/sexual abuse, sexual harassment in the workplace, higher beauty standards, women can't even go shopping without niggas bothering them

I can send you a link right now to 2 instances of guys nutting on random women in public. We got 2 US politicians who recently had to step down from congress because of their abuse of power with women staff. One of them, the woman they were having an affair with killed herself by self immolation. We got that D4VD case. You can say "These are rare instances", the point is I can post s*** where men do disgusting s*** like this to women. Can you do the same for women towards men?

Life is so good if you just focus on yourself and stop feeding into gender war s*** that is created by men or fueled by misandrists.

Who do you think holds more power and determines the rules of society between men and women? Historically and currently?

This is simply the way society works. This is the game. It'll never change. When I bring up the point's I've brought up I'm not advocating for things to change. It's just a result of human nature.