Those experiences exist but there also exists "the optimism gap" where people's macro perceptions don't align with their micro perceptions. There's women who will generalize and say they hate men... but not the men they know. Are you willing to grant that some of this is the result of internet radicalization? I don't think all of this is just women basing their opinions off their own experience, just like I think the same applies to misogyny within men. There's a lot of content online that is just hate loops, and that informs people's view of the world.
ktt really just a hive of mental midgets
I'm worried about the thing yall don't wanna talk about. It's very telling that yall soften prejudice as "being mean" and excuse every attempt to address it with whataboutism.
go commit a hate crime about it you'll feel better I'm sure
nah man, that take is way too crazy, how dare you state women might be part of the problem, sounds like something an loser would say
how about you kill yourself
This is why men crying about online hate and getting offended by men being called trash will always be p**** to me
When I was in the first grade, one of my classmates and her little sister got killed by their father before he killed himself during the holidays. Their mother was married before, had 2 girls, their father also killed those daughters before killing himself. Poor woman lost 4 children because of her 2 husbands
And like you say, s*** like this isn't just fringe cases. We need to hold men accountable instead of crying about women speaking up about what men are doing to them
Niggas put more energy into saying "not all men" than actually holding the rest of the men accountable. Folks want us to be fixated on the by-product of the actual rot they don't wanna deal with.
nah man, that take is way too crazy, how dare you state women might be part of the problem, sounds like something an loser would say
lmao that’s the post you respond to after @shua took that time to respond to you in earnest above it?
You are such a p**** b****
Pretending no one wants to have a real discussion when you won’t address any serious responses.
lmao that’s the post you respond to after @shua took that time to respond to you in earnest above it?
You are such a p**** b****
Pretending no one wants to have a real discussion when you won’t address any serious responses.
Absolutely no point in entertaining this moron
culture war nonsense. the women i see day to day don't hate me and i also don't go on twitter
Men more likely to be homeless, murdered, commit suicide, younger generation have higher unemployment rates, etc. Most of this thread is performative
Men more likely to be homeless, murdered, commit suicide, younger generation have higher unemployment rates, etc. Most of this thread is performative
men have ruled the world since the beginning of civilization. if you kill yourself thats on you not cause some girls were mean to you
men have ruled the world since the beginning of civilization. if you kill yourself thats on you not cause some girls were mean to you
It's not about girls being mean. misandry directed from women isnt actually a real thing that should effect anyone. But society is objectively harder for men beyond internet gender war stuff
It's not about girls being mean. misandry directed from women isnt actually a real thing that should effect anyone. But society is objectively harder for men beyond internet gender war stuff
as a man, i just disagree with you. life is hard for every living thing. i really don't know what you went through in your life to get the impression that life is harder for men than it is for women. to me it just feels like some all lives matter ass s*** that has plagued our culture
Very easy to put things into perspective when you realize how domestic abuse cases against women, femicide, workplace harrassment, sexual violence as a means of control, statutory rape, are not even close to being a thing of the past
Like, what are we doing here?
Go check the World Report Sudan 2026 on the Human Rights Watch website if you want a sobering wake up call.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2026/country-chapters/sudan
Somalia has only recently raised its age of consent to 18 (and by recently, I'm talking 2025).
https://www.girlsnotbrides.org/en/learning-resources/child-marriage-atlas/regions-and-countries/somalia/
There was another 2026 fresh case of a 30 year old man in South Africa who raped an 8 year old disabled girl.
Another case of a man raping a 3 year old.
https://www.capetownetc.com/news/saps-series-child-related-crimes-cape-town/
And no, these are not fringe cases.
Wtf do you gotta be up in arms for, really, if not to fight alongside our sisters? I actually thought you were trolling at first. This is bigger than Twitter gender wars. S*** ain't sweet all around.
Ok so heres the question, does misandry reduce these instances of women being abused? My intuition is that it could make things worse, regardless of whether or not its warranted
as a man, i just disagree with you. life is hard for every living thing. i really don't know what you went through in your life to get the impression that life is harder for men than it is for women. to me it just feels like some all lives matter ass s*** that has plagued our culture
It really doesnt matter what you personally believe. Everything Ive said is a fact that is backed up with evidence. Higher suicide, homelessness, lower life expectancy, higher unemployment in younger gen, more likely to die at work etc. These are all factual statements.
Also people trying to compare this to "reverse racism" or all lives matter is pretty annoying because for one, there are no tangible disadvantages to being white in Western society specifically. I just named several that men face
as a man, i just disagree with you. life is hard for every living thing. i really don't know what you went through in your life to get the impression that life is harder for men than it is for women. to me it just feels like some all lives matter ass s*** that has plagued our culture
Its a very complex dynamic, men have higher rates of suicide than women, but women i think deal with a lot more bullshit than men, so its sorta weird that the suicide thing is true
I think modern society represses a lot of what it means to be a man, not sexually but more so lifestyle wise, men arent supposed to be in some office building doing nothing all day, they are hunters, artists, craftsmen
The misandry stuff is just the icing on the cake, but a lot of modern men are extremely spoiled and weak willed, not sure why tbh
It really doesnt matter what you personally believe. Everything Ive said is a fact that is backed up with evidence. Higher suicide, homelessness, lower life expectancy, higher unemployment in younger gen, more likely to die at work etc. These are all factual statements.
Also people trying to compare this to "reverse racism" or all lives matter is pretty annoying because for one, there are no tangible disadvantages to being white in Western society specifically. I just named several that men face
These metrics paint a specific picture but theres no discussion of what dynamics lead to these stats. So its correlation not causality, which ultimately makes your argument pretty thin tbh
Once u explain WHY life is harder for men then you might be onto something
It's not about girls being mean. misandry directed from women isnt actually a real thing that should effect anyone. But society is objectively harder for men beyond internet gender war stuff
I think society is hard for broke, ugly, or socially awkward people. Women can live through bullshit just as much as men. Vice versa. It's just different types of stress. I got to make a dollar, while a girl might have to worry about ed.
I think society is hard for broke, ugly, or socially awkward people. Women can live through bullshit just as much as men. Vice versa. It's just different types of stress. I got to make a dollar, while a girl might have to worry about ed.
Society isnt meant to be easy for anyone
Ok so heres the question, does misandry reduce these instances of women being abused? My intuition is that it could make things worse, regardless of whether or not its warranted
What you're trying to address does not exist in a vacuum
I think society is hard for broke, ugly, or socially awkward people. Women can live through bullshit just as much as men. Vice versa. It's just different types of stress. I got to make a dollar, while a girl might have to worry about ed.
Exactly the suicide thing isnt a direct representation of men suffering more, it could be that men are more predisposed to violence including towards themselves, or men have lower tolerance for emotional and mental problems
These metrics paint a specific picture but theres no discussion of what dynamics lead to these stats. So its correlation not causality, which ultimately makes your argument pretty thin tbh
Once u explain WHY life is harder for men then you might be onto something
I literally mentioned almost every quality of life statistic and how men are disadvantaged in each one. Im not about to dive into each issue and give a socioeconomic explanation for each one.,
It's not about girls being mean. misandry directed from women isnt actually a real thing that should effect anyone. But society is objectively harder for men beyond internet gender war stuff
Crazy how niggas just lie and think adding "objectively" makes the bullshit they say more believable
What you're trying to address does not exist in a vacuum
Yea fair, my concern is with making things better, its like the cycle of hatred if youre always acting out of vengence it just causes more suffering all around
I think we should raise awareness about men being scumbags but i dont think that we should take it to some extreme place like snowboy tended to do