Those experiences exist but there also exists "the optimism gap" where people's macro perceptions don't align with their micro perceptions. There's women who will generalize and say they hate men... but not the men they know. Are you willing to grant that some of this is the result of internet radicalization? I don't think all of this is just women basing their opinions off their own experience, just like I think the same applies to misogyny within men. There's a lot of content online that is just hate loops, and that informs people's view of the world.
ugh these femoids are being radicalised by the internet into thinking how a majority of men treat them is horrible and dehumanising
oh i miss the days they werent able to read and wouldnt learn what abuse looks like
ugh these femoids are being radicalised by the internet into thinking how a majority of men treat them is horrible and dehumanising
oh i miss the days they werent able to read and wouldnt learn what abuse looks like
good strawman
Yeah it’s bad out here but tbh it’s kinda warranted
good strawman
i think its very telling you are less worried about widespread sexual, mental & physical abuse as a result of a patriarchal system and more worried about 40% of women being mean after they learn about it on the internet
i wonder if this is affecting kids at all
i think its very telling you are less worried about widespread sexual, mental & physical abuse as a result of a patriarchal system and more worried about 40% of women being mean after they learn about it on the internet
I'm worried about the thing yall don't wanna talk about. It's very telling that yall soften prejudice as "being mean" and excuse every attempt to address it with whataboutism.
I'm worried about the thing yall don't wanna talk about. It's very telling that yall soften prejudice as "being mean" and excuse every attempt to address it with whataboutism.
its hilarious to say nobody wants to talk about how men are oppressed, as if these manosphere talking points arent fully melded into mainstream narratives..
its not whataboutism if its the root of the problem mate.
misandry is, on the whole, a result of male abuse.
you’ve tried to handwave that away, but the truth is one in three women report themselves as the victims of abuse by a man in their lifetime. that doesnt count those that arent educated on what has happened to them. it also doesnt count the women whose friends, mothers, siblings etc. that have been abused by a male.
so this prejudice against men is a symptom of the disease. it also has zero systematic influence. its just online users with no power.
meanwhile, the most powerful human being on earth is a deeply misogynistic man found liable for rape.
patriarchy is the status quo, and its emotional core lies in faux oppression by reversing of victim and offender roles. thats what you are doing right now by citing the reaction to the problem as the actual problem.
It's not that I don't want to talk about it or ignore such trends, because they hold meaning, but I doubt I would come to the same conclusions about them that OP would.
Misandry can't be used as a crutch or explanation for romantic failings because behavior is ultimately a personal responsibility. Any barrier to entry caused by a negative reaction to years of patriarchy and generational trauma is simply the reasonable price you have to pay.
Just be gay. The boys never let you down.
I'm worried about the thing yall don't wanna talk about. It's very telling that yall soften prejudice as "being mean" and excuse every attempt to address it with whataboutism.
brother, just 'cause a girl broke your heart, ya ain't gotta go all loser.
it's just part of life.
Algorithms and extreme social media use have turned half of Gen Z and younger into losers regardless of their gender. A lot of men and women I know that appear as great people in real life have shown themselves to be unhinged on social media around hating the other gender.
Obviously, ongoing division with class and views on politics fuel these algorithms and cause this in the bigger picture.
Idk man I just talk to Grok all day
Algorithms and extreme social media use have turned half of Gen Z and younger into losers regardless of their gender. A lot of men and women I know that appear as great people in real life have shown themselves to be unhinged on social media around hating the other gender.
Obviously, ongoing division with class and views on politics fuel these algorithms and cause this in the bigger picture.
nah man, that take is way too crazy, how dare you state women might be part of the problem, sounds like something an loser would say
I'm worried about the thing yall don't wanna talk about. It's very telling that yall soften prejudice as "being mean" and excuse every attempt to address it with whataboutism.
The point is theres no prejudice, your life as a man isnt being threatened or made harder on the basis of you being a man right now
The point is theres no prejudice, your life as a man isnt being threatened or made harder on the basis of you being a man right now
They treat women saying mean things online like the balance is tipping too far away from their favor after men have basically been running the world since humanity existed and treated women like crap nearly the entire time
It's pointless to argue with someone that is concerned over something so stupid
After only about 100 years of women even starting to be looked at as equal if they are lucky men get in the crybaby zone when some women have mean things to say about them after being mistreated throughout all of history
Like sorry but no reasonable person sees the massive problem or feels bad for u
If anything I'd say it's pretty good that we are reaching a point where women finally feel comfortable badmouthing guys publicly on a wide scale
social media is a tool for radicalization. algorithms are antithetical to open discourse. a small harmful thought compounds because the algorithm feeds it to you and pushes you deeper and deeper into that line of thinking with no nuance or room for debate.
this applies to many ideologies prevalent today, not just whats happening in the OP
if people don't think this is an issue they should probably do some research into the state of gender dynamics in places like south korea where stuff like this went unaddressed for decades.
Very easy to put things into perspective when you realize how domestic abuse cases against women, femicide, workplace harrassment, sexual violence as a means of control, statutory rape, are not even close to being a thing of the past
Like, what are we doing here?
Go check the World Report Sudan 2026 on the Human Rights Watch website if you want a sobering wake up call.
hrw.org/world-report/2026/country-chapters/sudan
Somalia has only recently raised its age of consent to 18 (and by recently, I'm talking 2025).
girlsnotbrides.org/en/learning-resources/child-marriage-atlas/regions-and-countries/somalia
There was another 2026 fresh case of a 30 year old man in South Africa who raped an 8 year old disabled girl.
Another case of a man raping a 3 year old.
capetownetc.com/news/saps-series-child-related-crimes-cape-town
And no, these are not fringe cases.
Wtf do you gotta be up in arms for, really, if not to fight alongside our sisters? I actually thought you were trolling at first. This is bigger than Twitter gender wars. S*** ain't sweet all around.
Very easy to put things into perspective when you realize how domestic abuse cases against women, femicide, workplace harrassment, sexual violence as a means of control, statutory rape, are not even close to being a thing of the past
Like, what are we doing here?
Go check the World Report Sudan 2026 on the Human Rights Watch website if you want a sobering wake up call.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2026/country-chapters/sudan
Somalia has only recently raised its age of consent to 18 (and by recently, I'm talking 2025).
https://www.girlsnotbrides.org/en/learning-resources/child-marriage-atlas/regions-and-countries/somalia/
There was another 2026 fresh case of a 30 year old man in South Africa who raped an 8 year old disabled girl.
Another case of a man raping a 3 year old.
https://www.capetownetc.com/news/saps-series-child-related-crimes-cape-town/
And no, these are not fringe cases.
Wtf do you gotta be up in arms for, really, if not to fight alongside our sisters? I actually thought you were trolling at first. This is bigger than Twitter gender wars. S*** ain't sweet all around.
This is why men crying about online hate and getting offended by men being called trash will always be p**** to me
When I was in the first grade, one of my classmates and her little sister got killed by their father before he killed himself during the holidays. Their mother was married before, had 2 girls, their father also killed those daughters before killing himself. Poor woman lost 4 children because of her 2 husbands
And like you say, s*** like this isn't just fringe cases. We need to hold men accountable instead of crying about women speaking up about what men are doing to them
I'm worried about the thing yall don't wanna talk about. It's very telling that yall soften prejudice as "being mean" and excuse every attempt to address it with whataboutism.
It’s the fact that you not even trying to really address or even reply to anyone’s points itt that is actively bringing up real life statistics or real life crimes and s*** that women go through.
Anytime someone has brought up examples or reasons behind why some hate would be warranted you constantly either bring up “whataboutism” (another word that has been getting abused for the last 5 years) or you just cheapen/lessen the real life s*** women been through.
Like some of us dont have homegirls irl that we’ve seen in real time have the justice system fail them when they set restraining orders against exes that constantly bypass them and nothing happened to them. Til the point they (the homegirl) transferred to a diff college just to be safe.
Like trans women dont still deal with being murdered by men on a daily lol.
The way you been discussing itt is eerily similar to the way a regular podcaster does which once again leads me to wonder is this graph some s*** that you found out from a podcast or nah?
Once again: men not responding well to women finally having a voice is not a reason to say “oh women getting radicalized” man ask your grandma/great grandma what they had to put up with that’s enough to radicalize anyone lmaooo
@Beach_kneega op gon eurostep your whole post btw