why are y’all in here arguing about established artists who can afford to clear samples like this s*** isnt going to be trained for AI to f*** with everyone else
some of the s*** im reading in here is kind of wild to see on a hip hop forum
only a matter of time till they auto detect samples or some s*** bro
it already do that
I just don't trust anything good to really come from this because I don't trust spotify as an organisation.
oh god don’t tell me theyre gonna replace
the youtube links w spotify links now
wow that would be so f***ing ass
the internet is so screwed now lol best thing we can do is get off of it
This is so anti hip hop it’s hilarious no dawg premier and Q tip chose to sample it’s part of what hip hop is electronic music existed plenty poor people in Detroit were like also not sampling the same time dilla was sampling is an art form and essential to what hip hop is
I never said sampling is wrong. Sampling is a core part of hip hop.
I said sampling without paying the people that made the song is wrong in the modern day.
In the modern day if you're gonna sample someone's music and not clear it then don't monetise the song, it's pretty simple.
I never said sampling is wrong. Sampling is a core part of hip hop.
I said sampling without paying the people that made the song is wrong in the modern day.
Fair. If your loaded sure but u also fail to account for also a lot of the people who made these samples are racist, prejudice, or greedy aswell. And that affects a lot about the clearing process. Or it’s not a person it’s a record label of a huge song or a niche band that wanna make as much as possible. Or they just won’t clear it at ALL because they are b****es lol
Ex: untiljapan - old vices new cities
Incredible emotional amazing song that sample charli xcx for some vocal background stuff and mkgee for a guitar part. Didn’t get cleared unavailable anywhere because mk gee label refused. Or I make a jerk beat with an aphex twin 2 second sample as a background ambience pad but it gets taken down before it can even h it shelve S*** like this is a tragedy and let’s be real it is 99% of cases
I just don't trust anything good to really come from this because I don't trust spotify as an organisation.
Wild how modern fans have become so disconnected and ignorant of such a foundational core element of the genre
That’s the beauty of any genre though, how it evolves over time.
Producers in 2025 are not playing by the same rules that producers in 1985 were
In the modern day if you're gonna sample someone's music and not clear it then don't monetise the song, it's pretty simple.
It’s really as simple as that lmao
Fair. If your loaded sure but u also fail to account for also a lot of the people who made these samples are racist, prejudice, or greedy aswell. And that affects a lot about the clearing process. Or it’s not a person it’s a record label of a huge song or a niche band that wanna make as much as possible. Or they just won’t clear it at ALL because they are b****es lol
Ex: untiljapan - old vices new cities
Incredible emotional amazing song that sample charli xcx for some vocal background stuff and mkgee for a guitar part. Didn’t get cleared unavailable anywhere because mk gee label refused. Or I make a jerk beat with an aphex twin 2 second sample as a background ambience pad but it gets taken down before it can even h it shelve S*** like this is a tragedy and let’s be real it is 99% of cases
What you said is correct, but nobody is obligated to allow their song to be sampled if they don’t want it to be.
It seems like y’all only value ownership of art when it comes to hip-hop artists and nobody else
What you said is correct, but nobody is obligated to allow their song to be sampled if they don’t want it to be.
It seems like y’all only value ownership of art when it comes to hip-hop artists and nobody else
Think unless it’s a straight loop of ur s*** ur kind of a d*** if u would do anything other than take a percentage for anything that isn’t blatant copying when it comes to sampling lol
And it’s not just hip hop artists that sample nor has it ever been. It’s also electronic producers, pop songs, r&b
That’s the beauty of any genre though, how it evolves over time.
Producers in 2025 are not playing by the same rules that producers in 1985 were
Sampling is still a core staple of the genre lol people back then could’ve not sampled if they didn’t want to
Sampling is still a core staple of the genre lol people back then could’ve not sampled if they didn’t want to
I’m confused what you mean by this
Think unless it’s a straight loop of ur s*** ur kind of a d*** if u would do anything other than take a percentage for anything that isn’t blatant copying when it comes to sampling lol
And it’s not just hip hop artists that sample nor has it ever been. It’s also electronic producers, pop songs, r&b
On the flip side, the original artist might view the sampler as a d*** for using their own work without their permission
It’s all perspective