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  • Aug 15, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    untiljapan, nino paid, lil tony, veeze bigxtheplug, doechii, fakemink, jim legxacy, 454, edward skeletrix

    dog i made a SIDE NOTE about meta a***ysis of nettspend and i never claimed he was a good deep writer. his music isnt even linked in the OP. jesus. I clarified with osama EVEN he can get vulnerable for a song that i thought acc did a p good job for him even tho he nearly never does.

    Are you melz?

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    Are you melz?

    i dont even think nettspend is that good bro hes not anywhere near top THIRTY of his gen.

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    i dont even think nettspend is that good bro hes not anywhere near top THIRTY of his gen.

    Okay i was talking about melz not you
    Also if melz was 32 his dms definitely need to be checked bc he has some sus music taste

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    Okay i was talking about melz not you
    Also if melz was 32 his dms definitely need to be checked bc he has some sus music taste

    idk i heard he was like 30s no hes an og i thought? also ya guy was weird
    also my bad i misread

  • Aug 15, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    mans do that but those just dont get much activity liek that and inevitably get a bunch of guys talmbout how its all ass

    its not hard to just ignore that or use it as a chance to bump with something dumb like f*** off lol

  • Aug 15, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    idk i heard he was like 30s no hes an og i thought? also ya guy was weird
    also my bad i misread

    I deeply disagree with your opinions a lot of the times but you seem to be a nice person who is willing to argue their stances so youre cool to me

  • Aug 15, 2025
    Fever

    its not hard to just ignore that or use it as a chance to bump with something dumb like f*** off lol

    i mean true. We have those threads tho. if u mean big general threads ive made a few and they die unless i put a lot of effort into them. but we do have individual threads for those artists. the main issue is threads for discussion

  • Aug 15, 2025
    rather late

    I deeply disagree with your opinions a lot of the times but you seem to be a nice person who is willing to argue their stances so youre cool to me

    real af

  • Aug 15, 2025
    Chickennugget

    This is an old people forum now, that’s the perspective and convo you’re gonna get here. Same way we used to clown those old head forums back in the day. No idea where you go to hear from younger people… not even sure if new generations use forums

    its mainly discords. i actually mainly use discord. i just got addicted here after posting my history of hip hop playlist. i had an account here since 2019 i used to lurk, posted only a few times before that.

    I only made an account initially cuz i liked looking at old first impressions threads here as a historical thing cuz i was curious how ppl reacted to new music when it came out and how culturally significant it was. just interesting being able to interact with so many people who are like

    like soo on a different planet with how they see things in terms of worlds apart from like everyone else i talk to online. stuff i say is wayy more controversial to ppl here than like any discord server lol. also yea no one is on forums like that

  • Aug 15, 2025
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    AvenueJones

    My problem with some of the new/younger artists that get pushed on here goes back to a comment I made a couple of years ago where

    I’m just tired of artists/rappers getting pushed on to me as something “new” and originating a fresh new sound or style and it really be a derivative of the last wave or a nigga that been buzzing for a couple years but didn’t get that same promotion.

    ngl mans just older now and dont realize who they thought was fresh back then could be described the same way half the time but the truth is usually its influence and mans just cant see past it since its what they associate with it

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    What melz core artist is comparable to 2014 thug?
    Not trying to sound like a boomer but none of them made any noise outside of their underground niche.
    Thug and Keef had so much haters but it was also obvious they were special.

    your comparing an established artists that atp is legendary who was hated at the time to artists that we are currently witnessing.

    it doesnt amtter who i say. you would disagree. and the claim would be big. because its thug's prime, an untouchable legendary beloved artist and time.

    someone in 2014 would say this about "who rn in 2014 is comparable to 2pac or biggie or big L or 50 cent"
    like yea, those are the greatest rappers of all time. obv nothing.

    but yall forget thug wasnt very commercially sucessful in 2014, and mans be way bigger than streaming numbers tell you. 1017 thug was relatively niche, probably smaller than a lot of rappers now. not to say ken carson is the answer btw but for perspective a thug project didnt chart till Barter 6 at #22, ken went #1 in the country this year, thats with hip hop being significantly bigger nowadays.Thug at that point had been making music for 4 years.

    This isnt the type of space where anyone being compared here would be respected. id say theres plenty people that are clearly incredibly special tho.

  • Aug 15, 2025
    Willie Wildcat

    I would say Twitter but with the introduction of the paid blue checks reduced underground pages into promo machines/interaction farming.

    Like 76% of Twitter accounts is bots engage farming now. Elon really ruined that app.

  • Aug 15, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    ngl mans just older now and dont realize who they thought was fresh back then could be described the same way half the time but the truth is usually its influence and mans just cant see past it since its what they associate with it

    I’m not saying every artists I listened to was “pushing the culture forward” by all means listen to what you like. But alot of these aren’t interesting enough as artists for me to care. That’s musically and even aesthetically.

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    Gen Z rappers ain’t making no universally known impact lil bro

    Part of it ain’t necessarily their fault bc mono culture is dying but part of it is though. A lot of s*** from new artists is either niche and doesn’t cast a wide enough net for people to care or low effort/formulaic/gimmicky

    It’s not like it’s a whole bunch of legendary Gen Z rappers that we are actively ignoring lol

    Maybe that’s the problem: we care about being legendary and yall just be wanting to vibe fr. I get it but to me that’s not hip-hop

    even if this was true only of this era

    i think its much more hip hop to just care about your music being authentic than it is about getting signed or making hits. using the vague term of niche to dismiss that someone can be legendary is odd, because a lot of the 2010s legends were way more niche.

    Lil B, all of Odd future, Spaceghostpurpp, Bladee, Young Thug, Yung lean, these are all LEGENDS for their eras before they gained any commercial sucess like that. And to scale, hip-hop was a way smaller genre there was way less people. Yet, they were incredibly influential, impactful, and legendary.

    it's just, hip hop itself was also more niche than it is now. To say an artist has to be at pop star status (hip-hop's top guys are the pop stars now in music, its objectively the biggest genre on earth) is just your expectations adjusting to the ceiling

    When mans say people sell less first week, they dont. its just deflated because 1200 streams=a sale. That reduces the amount of people shown represented in sales numebrs significantly, even accounting for piracy, cuz even back then not one person was playing an album even 600 times the first week unless its a superfan.

    so yes, its easier to be in your own bubble and not interact with younger music now and its easier to be disconnected from what other age groups listen to

    however that doesnt mean mans dont wanna be legendary nor does that mean they arent. Old guys thought uzi was just bullshit that would fade, same with carti, but before anyone accepted them in the older generation they were already influential legends. you think any 40 year old who wasnt tapped in f***ed ith LIL B or yung lean? no they dismissed it.

    u dont know what effort goes into people's music, everyone said that about carti but its really just a presumption, most new artists that i love and am aware of that are doing well are quite unique which is why they have such cult followings.

    yes you have less of the great new artists trying to be all arounders with hits. but thats because, you dont need the radio to find someone anymore and we dont need more poeple like a asap rocky having to feed into inauthentic music they grow to hate because the label wants them to make it. that label model doesnt work anymore. Doechii just did it and veryone hates her now.

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    AvenueJones

    I’m not saying every artists I listened to was “pushing the culture forward” by all means listen to what you like. But alot of these aren’t interesting enough as artists for me to care. That’s musically and even aesthetically.

    ah thats fair enough

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