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  • Big Dog

    Sorry to tell you but pure sales tell no story in the 2020’s.

    You asked me a question, pure sales are the answer to your question. In 2026, they’re a marker of what artists are capable of doing outside of streaming

  • Mafia Boss

    iceman had no website digital sales...

    Neither did Morale or Off-Season first week.

    Regardless, the difference between 3x the amount of digital download purchases first week is not the album being available on an artist’s webstore. There’s legitimately no difference between that and iTunes.

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    ryuka_

    300k no streams

    Yeah you’re smoking crack

    You don’t do 30K first week on a collab album’s physical sales and then times that by ten first week for a solo album. That’s just now how it works

  • GONE

    Hundreds of thousands of people buying your album in an era where they don’t want to, don’t have to, and barely like music will always be a W. There is no cope to mitigate that fact

    Pure sales will always be king no matter how much these lames online try to act like it’s embarrassing

  • Big Dog

    Sorry to tell you but pure sales tell no story in the 2020’s.

    Brain dead Drake stan cope

    We denigrate music acts with fake fanbases who don't support their artists by streaming when they drop projects. Buying music is just one step further than hitting play in terms of fan support. It's certainly not meaningless and actually says a lot about fan dedication.

  • pure sales is king again, shaleirose got me regulated

    😫

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    GONE

    Hundreds of thousands of people buying your album in an era where they don’t want to, don’t have to, and barely like music will always be a W. There is no cope to mitigate that fact

    30k people buying it 10 times

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    shaleirose

    Pure sales tell the story. All of his albums since 2022 have debuted with about 10-12K in digital downloads. That is abnormally low for an artist of his stature. For reference, both Mr. Morale and GNX did around 35K in digital downloads, The Off-Season did 37K in digital downloads, etc.

    Secondly, as much as you don't want to admit it because it wasn't a Drake solo album, the physical numbers for $$$4U support it. It released multiple variant CDs and vinyl at numerous retailers and didn't even pull 50K total sold. For context, another rap superstar that dropped a non-solo project in 2025 was Travis Scott, and Jackboys II did 160K first week in pure sales.

    Drake fans primarily engage with his music by streaming it. They don't buy his physicals & merch en masse like fans of other artists do

    Were you not telling The Fall Off pure sales didn't mean anything

  • Benny Boy

    Were you not telling The Fall Off pure sales didn't mean anything

    No? I said The Fall-Off flopped because longterm the album didn’t stick around and sell anything. I never said it didn’t have a great first week. Y’all be reading words and drawing the wrong conclusions

  • Mafia Boss

    30k people buying it 10 times

    The same is true of streaming and you naive if you don’t believe that

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  • Benny Boy

    Genuinely, how are you thinking these two statements have anything to do with each other?

    The Fall-Off was a highly anticipated album that didn’t stick around at all with the general public. Its’ pure sales figure from the first week was a marker of how anticipated it was, not how successful it was longterm.

    It’s the same concept as a song debuting at #1 on the Hot 100 and then freefalling off of the chart after mere weeks (4X4, FRANCHISE, Trollz, etc.)

    What does this have to do with me explaining the difference in Drake’s pure sales numbers and his peers’?

  • Some of y’all reading comprehension is in the gutter man

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    So is orod, a still new artist in her 20s, beating Drake supposed to be meaningful? I’ve never seen a thread title like this in my life. Is Lucien paying for this? Yall really should be shamed

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    2words

    So is orod, a still new artist in her 20s, beating Drake supposed to be meaningful? I’ve never seen a thread title like this in my life. Is Lucien paying for this? Yall really should be shamed

    You've never seen a thread title with facts?

  • Big Dog

    Last time drake did physicals he sold 658k physicals. You pull these drake can’t sell physicals numbers out of your ass because of SSS4U which is a partynextdoor album

    It’s as much a PND album as it is a Drake album

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    Bow_And_Arrow

    You've never seen a thread title with facts?

    Nah this is a bizarre title.

    Take the stan glasses off for a second

    Imagine if Kendrick dropped an album earlier this year, and divine was still OP

    And the title was ā€œOlivia Rodrigo passes Kendrickā€

    You would be crying like a b**** and we all know it

  • 2words

    Nah this is a bizarre title.

    Take the stan glasses off for a second

    Imagine if Kendrick dropped an album earlier this year, and divine was still OP

    And the title was ā€œOlivia Rodrigo passes Kendrickā€

    You would be crying like a b**** and we all know it

    Lol

  • Wow drake lost

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    This is the guy that compares himself to Michael Jackson right?

  • I remember a few years ago before Olivia and dua lipa dropped their last albums i said Olivia would blow past dua in popularity and music quality. The music quality is subjective but I feel like she passed dua by now

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    Me and my homeboy got so f***ing heated at the club just now

    Were rocking our OVO merch as usual, vibing out to Shabang, when this little runt of a woman with no ass or t*** comes up to us and says "How do you feel about Olivia Rodrigo selling more than Drake?" I said what the f*** are you talking about you stupid b**** (I didn't actually say that to her but I thought it) Iceman sold 463k first week there's no way that's actually true but by the time I said it she had already turned around and walked away

    So I go onto Twitter to check and apparently she did sell 470k? What the f*** is happening man, there's gotta be some number fudging or botting because this can't be real

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    shaleirose

    Yeah you’re smoking crack

    You don’t do 30K first week on a collab album’s physical sales and then times that by ten first week for a solo album. That’s just now how it works

    Thats how it works given that solo album =\= collab

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    Thats how it works given that solo album =\= collab

    A solo album doesn't sell 10x the first week amount of a collab album.

    Her Loss: 404K -> For All the Dogs: 402K

    $$$4U: 249K -> ICEMAN: 463K

    You don't go from 30K pure sales on a collab album to 300K on a solo album

  • DONT CARE, O ROD BETTER