Music business is slimey AF. The artist are the ones that have to change it but they can't keep signing the same BS.

I agree but artist are paid royalties on the work that is technically the label paying them for the art

op is a literal record label shill. ban him honestly

The NBA was a bad example on my end because a label isn't necessary to the recording process for most acts today the way that the NBA is kinda necessary for basketball games exclusively featuring the top 500 players in the world

I was basically trying to say that the way a label gets to clear and profit off of an artists' creation forever it would be f***ed if people had to go to the NBA to use their own name on a sneaker or some s*** like that the way labels decide who can sample a master they own

It's just a f***ed system if you've actually been a creator and all these folks are doing is marketing you and leveraging decade old relationships and then being greedy with peoples art over that small aspect of the music to consumer relationship. Especially now that MTV and s*** don't really exist and you can get on the Vlad's/Breakfast Club/etc. with agency's and phone calls

Also sometimes (likely majority of the time) labels do own likenesses, i.e. Snoop Doggy Dogg becoming Snoop Dogg when he goes to No Limit

universal propaganda wont work here !

Kyser is that you?

Also, I am not saying labels aren't slimey. I am just saying the same thing has been happening for years. The artist at some point have to change the practice.

Not really lol

They’re the money

at least op put out an unpopular opinion. some of you put out s*** like "unpopular opinion: future is really cool"

op prolly says all lives matter too

It expires after 35 years but thats too long

It goes back to them iirc

How do u get to the fans

Ask any independent artist

the artists aren’t the ones who’ve been in business this long. you’re making it seem like artists are reincarnated with memory of their past lives every time they sign a deal with labels.

it’s new artists with no knowledge of the industry signing with labels who’ve been predatory for decades. of course they don’t know better, and the labels know this. that’s why they go after those types of people to sign in the first place. the label does know better though and takes full advantage wherever it can.

you’re literally victim blaming the artists for getting duped by predatory legal practices from labels who you acknowledge have been perfecting their predatory crafts for decades.

just lock this thread before you make yourself look like even more of a fool.

Without the artist there wouldn't be anything the label would build on anyway. They are the factory that's making the product they are entitled to the fruit of their labor.

I agree its a f***ed system. I'm just saying there is a lot of value in promotion and marketing. That's why not always the best artist and songs are the most liked or make the most money

Hence why Life is Good is played after every video I watch on YouTube. Someone had to pay for that to happen.

I think there are more avenues now but artist have to be smart enough to take advantage of them.

nah he’s worse. he’s a blue lives matter typa guy. probably even says white lives matter to be edgy too.

Exactly lol ask them

The response is literal money, not theorical money lol

If u wanna be an indie artist, you should have the rights to all your masters but you won’t get those million dollar ad budgets that make these big cultural moments and artists lol