1099 for the base frame is my guess

They’re shipping some of the launch stock with 2x 8gb ram sticks instead of 1x 16gb

Paying the same $1050 as the next person and you still may get worse performance

Anyone buying this at launch is either braindead or just has money to burn

I kinda regret selling my oled steam deck smh

I got rid of my Steam Deck, have my Legion Go in storage, and ended up getting an OLED Android tablet and just stream from my PC or just use GameNative to play Steam games.

Actually pretty nuts how much you can do with Android these days. Cheaper than a Steam Deck now too lmao

still have mine and i use it maybe once every 3 months lol

i play a lot of old games, arguably mostly old games, and i'd say im not troubleshooting 95% of the time. proton covers everything out of the box and is even better with that than on windows, so idk.

that's not a scam though. like that's not the definition. the scam is the locked down hardware, regardless if it costs significantly less. and AI slop hiking the price of s*** doesn't make it a scam, that's capitalism dude (which sucks btw). prices of things rising and falling based on the f***ed up current market and economic conditions we find ourselves in. like it's not the pc manufacturers' fault, it's AI slop doing it to everything, including the locked down consoles. nobody ever denied it f***ing SUCKS, but to say it's a scam is just inaccurate, regardless of all your anecdotes. you aren't getting a high end gaming experience on a locked down proprietary console, regardless if you think you are, and the prices of those consoles are ALSO going up, ESPECIALLY since again, series x and ps5 are literally just x86 PCs with locked down proprietary operating systems. so let's not even go there, they have no ground to stand on either.

and btw yes the steam machine is DOA for that price, and it IS a terrible time to get into PC gaming. that doesn't make it a scam especially when the alternatives are locked down experiences, which is inherently scammy. a PC will always be far more worth it than a locked down console, for gaming and for literally anything else. that's just reality. the value of a proprietary console will never beat a PC, period, arguably only unless that console is jailbroken, in which case it effectively becomes a PC.

and no, you're wrong, i am extremely familiar with windows and still keep a spare pc with it plus a windows to go SSD for an nvidia laptop i use to dualboot. aside from needing to update drivers (which i do automatically with nvcleaninstall btw) the experience is perfectly convenient there too. steam big picture works fine there, been working for more than a decade now, they got xbox gaming UI now, and in fact it's even MORE convenient because of the decades of software compatibility especially for third party tools; from modding s*** to repack installers for free games, pc gaming is still (unfortunately, i might add) windows first in a lot of ways. like you're just talking out of your ass and it's obvious to anyone with even cursory experience with any of this. if you would stop talking so much about s*** you don't know about, maybe you'd learn a thing or two.

I make 120k a year after my raise, I’m buying two to celebrate

compatibility issues effectively don't happen anymore with proton. hasn't come up for me in more than a year and i play a wide variety of games. the anticheat thing is still an issue, but i don't play those games anyway and for the few im curious about i dualboot, which yes, requires setup, but i digress.

my friend wanted to get into pc gaming and i just sent they ass to micro center and they helped em out, but they were lucky to have one nearby. i won't deny the building a pc part is hard for lowest common denominator even though it's more accessible than ever, that's true. but the console experience isn't better just because you can play the few slop games disallowed on linux my man. im saying you can get the console experience right now pretty easily on PC, and it doesn't require much setup at all, even on windows. i feel like it's idiot proof, but sure, the locked down consoles are still more idiot proof than that ig, judging by some of the other folks itt. im also saying that what little friction exists after you actually either got a PC set up is easier than it's ever been to surmount, but yes, it still has slightly more friction than a ps5, of course, which is what the steam machine was gonna solve, but unfortunately won't at that mf price.

You’re gonna be playing gta vi like this in a year on your Gabecube

Because of a texture mod right?

do not use steam OS. just use cachyos handheld, which despite its name is not just for handhelds (really wish they would change the name on that, but whatever). it's everything steam OS does but better in every way, and also not just designed for the few machines steam OS supports, so you could install it on a potato laptop you have lying around and i can almost guarantee you it will work perfectly. if you plan to use it more as a desktop as opposed to a living room PC, you can install the desktop edition. here's their website cachyos.org

and btw pretty sure the answer to that is yes, but cachyos supports nvidia and intel and pretty much anything else out of the box.

lemme hold one big dog

Only for fine b****es who like to suck toes, sorry

my body is ready

all of this really sucks because this was supposed to be the one yknow? anyway though i guess if i wanted to get someone into PC gaming at this point i would tell them to get something refurbished or used off ebay, probably an Ally X or something if they wanted any hope of copying something under 500 bucks or even 600. i hate AI man

I might have to go this route cause the prices for these valve products are absurd.

That being said, I bought the LCD AND OLED Steam Decks and sold them both, maybe handhelds aren't my thing

wait til you discover rocknix. got it on my ayn thor, put it on the internal SSD and never looking back to android. input latency alone is crazy good, so damn responsive. putting it on all my handhelds that can use it i got a small collection atp

Price for this is silly, can you at least use this thing like a computer?

Yeah. Can install any os you want and use it like a regular desktop

Ok, so it's just a Valve branded PC, I also seen that you can use any gamepad you want(like a PC). This thing is pretty much the next evolution in Home Theatre PCs

Half life 3 is supposed to launch with this, right?