Drake has a much more impressive and impactful run and discog but most importantly he’s a true MC that is battle tested unlike Kendrick. Kendrick would never dare start a beef with Drake because Drake would absolutely obliterate him and end his career forever

agree to strongly disagree and i love drake like seriously don’t think he has a bad record in his catalogue, phenomenal flow, great writer

but i genuinely think no one touches kendrick when he’s in some pockets

I came in here in support of Drake being the better of the two right now but I find myself defending Kendrick now because y’all just in here saying stupid s***

I just prefer Drake’s music. I like the hooks and melodies, the production style, the emotion in his songs, the bangers. Plus I can play Drake casually which isn’t always the case with Kendrick. Also IYRTITL and Views era was particularly special to me.

Drake challenges himself enough musically to justify any claims for his artistry.

My issue has been his content. Drake has been writing about the same s*** for at least 8 years now (fake friends, hoes that upset him, fame being difficult, maybe a sub here and there). He hasn't grown as a writer at all and he barely challenges himself in terms of subject matter. And when he does try, like on March 14, there isn't a lot of depth or insight.

Think about Kendrick's growth from S80 to Mr. Morale, Jay from Reasonable Doubt to 4:44, Kanye from College Dropout to Donda, Q Tip from People's Instinctive to We Got It From Here, Andre from Southernplayalistic to his solo features, Earl from the Odd Future days to Some Rap Songs, etc. They barely sound like the same people.

We clown Push for rapping about selling coke on every album, but how is Drake growing like the interesting figures in rap that influenced him when he's still in IYRTITL mode 8 years later? I feel like it's the same clickbait articles every album cycle listing their favorite new spiteful Drake bars because everyone knows what his perspective is going to be.

This was the coolest song ever at one point:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=FjSfelCds6g&pp=ygURdGhlIGhlYXJ0IHBhcnQgMSA%3D

As far as content, Kanye would seem like a bad example. Ye has been more or less rapping about similar themes since MBDTF, some kind of fame s***trip with some religion mixed in. If anything you could say his content regressed and slowly became less of a focus for him through his career

Idk if Q Tip really sounds like a new man either lol I’d say he’s been pretty consistent as a rapper all around. But yeah drake’s content is a pretty big weak spot when comparing him to others

I’m in middle school

Donda is nothing like MBDTF. He raps about fatherhood, marriage, his mother, religion, culture wars, yeah some fashion and s***bars but less so than other records, it's a fairly specific album tied to a particular time and place. I don't think he could make that album again and he certainly wouldn't have any earlier because the events inspiring it were unique to the time. That's one interesting thing about Kanye; whatever is happening with him will inform his music.

As far as Q-Tip goes, I don't think there's any way he would have rapped something like We the People or Black Spasmodic on his earliest records. We Got It From Here is much angrier, more political and reflective in tone than Tribe's classics. There's clearly been a lot of growth and change within him. That's one of the greatest rap veteran records.

Kendrick was over until Aunties Diaries dropped

Cus you can actually play Drake music in your daily life. There’s a Drake song for every moment of the day. Kendrick’s music is very samey in that regard. You really have to be in a specific mood to play that.

You bring some decent examples up, but Q Tip always had political undertones and Beats Rhymes and Life was the first time he adopted a angrier approach, there is progression but not on some different person stuff to me

And like you said, with Donda (and JIK) it is less so than other records with that stuff, but from MBDTF, WTT, Yeezus, Cruel Summer, TLOP, and Ye it felt like his content both stagnated and got worse/less substantive through this period. (ye introduced mental health themes but a lot of it still felt like it was in MBDTF Yeezus purgatory).

I will give JIK and Donda some credit for mostly moving past it and Ye has obviously changed a lot since CD, but i just didn’t know if an artist with such a weak run of content was a good counterpoint to drake, they actually have that in common

I would honestly take Drake's writing getting less elaborate, with fewer punchlines/quotables, if he challenged himself with new subject matter. I don't think simplicity is necessarily a sign of regression, in fact it can be an exciting if tentative first step toward new territory.

The point that Kendrick's rapping has gotten "worse" because his bars about therapy aren't as sticky as his bars about running in the streets were on GKMC seems to place value on the wrong aspects of creative expression. Finding more polished ways to make the same statements is an art form, but it places a ceiling on one's own potential IMO. Certainly, it's not what inspires me as a writer and it isn't an earmark of the rappers who influenced me.

Better at everything

I wouldn’t go as far to make that polarization, Scarface is my favorite writer and he mostly zeroed in on his own mental struggles through his career. Bringing it back more to content rather than your focus on progression, drake’s content is just shallow it’s not even about needing to progress, it’s about having any level of depth to grab on to at the bare minimum

Really in the art form of rap most people just rap what they know, so most are refining more than reinventing, even the artists you named. If Q Tip’s almost unnoticeable evolution from 89 to 2016 is enough then maybe it’s just because his foundation was that solid to begin with where he could just refine and update with the times

FLOODS THE STREETS WITH UNDENIABLE CONSISTANCY

clb is mid btw idc what a drake stan or a blood sucking music d***head gotta say.

drake gives you more emotions more moments to play his music.

doesnt let us without music for 5 y

because drake is white too!

corny played out debate find new music pls ty

Kendrick and keem make some of the most annoying sounds I've ever heard. Don't know how anyone listens to keem tbh, very unlikeable voice

Whats the purpose of posting this here u f***in bonehead