Like this exactly. Thank you. People sound like they're at gunpoint and say the dumbest s*** when they try to complain about this album.

Wait where did that terrible ian connor thread go

i realized it was an ian connor thread & deleted

and he did it like crazy. insane story

trying too hard to sound grandiose is definitely a valid criticism, and you don’t have to try to do better than MBDTF yourself to criticize it, just like you don’t have to try to do better than MBDTF yourself to say it’s amazing either

getting ragebaited over people disliking a Nazi’s music is insane lmfao

theres always this point with every piece of widely acclaimed art or media or entertainment when the overwhelming love just naturally produces this kinda reverse reaction even from people who love the project to death. kinda like too much of a good thing and you get bored exclusively loving someting. i noticed it with people turning on tpab (dumb drake fans running with it notwithstanding), people turning on random acclaimed movies like godfather etc. i had that with pink floyds dark side of the moon where i really couldnt play it at some point i played it too much. but it doesnt take from the thing in the slightest

The sound was pure hip-hop for the most part, but this high-brow artsy aesthetic from the artwork paintings to the performance art and choreography from George Condo and Vanessa Beecroft was def inspired by and presented from a Eurocentric lens. Kanye’s proximity to whiteness post-808s has always been part of his appeal to a certain demographic that always separated him from other traditional hip-hop acts.

Still a 10/10 for me but I do feel like projects like Yeezus are more interesting. The era itself was incredible though, GOOD Friday songs like CDDF won't ever be matched imo

I don't give a s*** what he "tried" to do, I care what the product is on record. Same with him being a nazi. The album is the album regardless and it sounds great.

I miss you, Kanye.

To who? In 2009-2010 if you weren’t rocking skinnier pants you were either seen as an old head or someone just not fashion forward at that point. Hov was at the start of his old head era himself and that’s why Blueprint 3 came
out the way it did cause he was falling behind trying to grasp for coolness.

LR >

Was negative pr for young thug so had to go

Chance the Rapper just pulled this off as well

okay

on record, the album sounds too polished

trying too hard to be grandiose is a bit of an oxymoron

album is still a 10. Yall just started flipping on it when Ye said he doesnt think its his strongest album

this is one of those threads we'll still have on ktt3 in 2031

"is mbdtf actually that great" is a "is channel orange better than kaleidoscope dream/blonde" level timeless ktt arguing thread

I don't get this at all. It sounds rough at times. The album is super blown out and compressed with a ton of digital distortion from the mastering process. Graduation and Late Registration are far more polished. You mean it has too many layers and overdubs? That it's overproduced?

Even as someone who doesn’t really listen to this album anymore I am truly baffled at what “too polished” means lol

Id spit on you if you were in front of me op

mfs hear the drums come in on all of the lights and think so polished….