Dec 12, 2025
BIRTH CERTIFICATEi dont think people are having the set of experiences that it would take to produce or consume “real hip hop”
im going to keep emphasizing on this site that niche cultures is the future and there will always be a lane for it but itll never be mainstream again
everyone is living disjointed realities, most people don’t know the person making the same amount as them has it 10x worse. some niggas drive mustangs, some ride the bus lol. I could see why the music hard to recieve all that once
Dec 12, 2025
shimmyBro stop derailing my threads
- Dec 12, 2025
SyIIabIesTyler has a real following while weirdos follow that fan base lol. If OF was still a thing they would be huge by now. But they all fell out over dumb s***. The whole crew was toxic after 2013
at least they all homies again. everyone but Frank and Hodgy was at the Doris 10 year show
Dec 12, 2025·2 repliesValentinei disagree. having gone to his shows, it’s very much a mix of young gen z to older gen z/millenials. Tyler got famous in the blog era. his crowd is mainly from IG and YouTube
It’s a little more complicated than that. he had a relatively niche fanbase of millennial skateboarders and forum nerds and basically lost that whole base by the time Cherry Bomb was out
until Flower Boy when he won over the Twitter/ig crowd of young millennials and older gen z with the identity stuff that spoke to them and that moment, then that brought some old fans back
That base kind of steadily grew through Igor and Call Me era with that group of white people that listen to rap and dress preppy just grew and grew
But then that finally led to TikTok getting a hold of Chromokopia and that completely changed everything again. As far as demographic he’s literally a children’s artist now. And this happened overnight with Chromakopia. All that old stuff is overwritten, this new movement is exponentially bigger than anything he’s done before
- Dec 12, 2025·edited·1 reply2words
It’s a little more complicated than that. he had a relatively niche fanbase of millennial skateboarders and forum nerds and basically lost that whole base by the time Cherry Bomb was out
until Flower Boy when he won over the Twitter/ig crowd of young millennials and older gen z with the identity stuff that spoke to them and that moment, then that brought some old fans back
That base kind of steadily grew through Igor and Call Me era with that group of white people that listen to rap and dress preppy just grew and grew
But then that finally led to TikTok getting a hold of Chromokopia and that completely changed everything again. As far as demographic he’s literally a children’s artist now. And this happened overnight with Chromakopia. All that old stuff is overwritten, this new movement is exponentially bigger than anything he’s done before
Tyler never lost any of his day one fans lol, what are you talking about. ya’ll on this forum put wayyy to much weight on TikTok. them young niggas are broke just like we were in the early 2010s watching all this online lmfao. they might go to shows, but I bet it’s more longtime fans who go and the massive amount of fans he made in Flower Boy era
you was either into Tyler when you seen Yonkers or you was into other s*** like Spitta/Wiz or whatever was hot in 2011 on the blogs, datpiff and YouTube lmao. that nigga has maintained them fans since that day (many hold Wolf and CB as all time classics in his catalog) and they still go to shows today. these are the fans who can afford his $100 sweaters when they couldn’t afford his Golf donut bullshit lmao
the fans you thinking of won’t impact his shows for another decade lol, TikTok is still a young social media. this nigga just made an album with hella old samples, the crowd is literally going crazy for a Busta sample, that’s millennials as f*** dawg lmao
Dec 12, 2025in 2019 maybe. but i think that his 2021 album reestablished him in the same way that Flowerboy did. just with a different crowd. there's a reason his 2024 album was so commercially successful. i saw a lot of people were bumping it. and not alt kids for the most part.
- Dec 12, 2025·1 replyValentine
Tyler never lost any of his day one fans lol, what are you talking about. ya’ll on this forum put wayyy to much weight on TikTok. them young niggas are broke just like we were in the early 2010s watching all this online lmfao. they might go to shows, but I bet it’s more longtime fans who go and the massive amount of fans he made in Flower Boy era
you was either into Tyler when you seen Yonkers or you was into other s*** like Spitta/Wiz or whatever was hot in 2011 on the blogs, datpiff and YouTube lmao. that nigga has maintained them fans since that day (many hold Wolf and CB as all time classics in his catalog) and they still go to shows today. these are the fans who can afford his $100 sweaters when they couldn’t afford his Golf donut bullshit lmao
the fans you thinking of won’t impact his shows for another decade lol, TikTok is still a young social media. this nigga just made an album with hella old samples, the crowd is literally going crazy for a Busta sample, that’s millennials as f*** dawg lmao
That’s not true at all from my perspective
Cherry Bomb hype was not the same as any other album. I felt actually sad as a fan and was ready for it to be over. I’m telling you a lot of his fans weren’t checking for that. I think that revisionism you mentioned, how people retrospectively rank it as a favorite, is distracting from just how ignored and how much of a low point that actually was for Tyler’s popularity. No one was saying that in real time. No one started saying that until Tyler himself started championing it after he got more popular and people went back.
He pretty much does acknowledge this himself from what I remember and that’s what led to the soul searching for a new direction for Flower Boy, which was the most career saving single album I’ve ever seen. Tyler was this close to becoming Wale or Big Sean or Charles Hamilton but he came with Flower Boy. I lived it all and that was my perspective.
- Dec 12, 20252words
That’s not true at all from my perspective
Cherry Bomb hype was not the same as any other album. I felt actually sad as a fan and was ready for it to be over. I’m telling you a lot of his fans weren’t checking for that. I think that revisionism you mentioned, how people retrospectively rank it as a favorite, is distracting from just how ignored and how much of a low point that actually was for Tyler’s popularity. No one was saying that in real time. No one started saying that until Tyler himself started championing it after he got more popular and people went back.
He pretty much does acknowledge this himself from what I remember and that’s what led to the soul searching for a new direction for Flower Boy, which was the most career saving single album I’ve ever seen. Tyler was this close to becoming Wale or Big Sean or Charles Hamilton but he came with Flower Boy. I lived it all and that was my perspective.
glad you have your perspective you lived and I have mine, the beauty of life lol
Dec 12, 2025·1 reply2wordsIt’s a little more complicated than that. he had a relatively niche fanbase of millennial skateboarders and forum nerds and basically lost that whole base by the time Cherry Bomb was out
until Flower Boy when he won over the Twitter/ig crowd of young millennials and older gen z with the identity stuff that spoke to them and that moment, then that brought some old fans back
That base kind of steadily grew through Igor and Call Me era with that group of white people that listen to rap and dress preppy just grew and grew
But then that finally led to TikTok getting a hold of Chromokopia and that completely changed everything again. As far as demographic he’s literally a children’s artist now. And this happened overnight with Chromakopia. All that old stuff is overwritten, this new movement is exponentially bigger than anything he’s done before
Y’all still associating TikTok with kids in the big 2025? It’s now probably the most dominated social platform next to IG that all ages except maybe old Gen X and boomers are on.
- Dec 12, 2025JeffersonSteelflex
Y’all still associating TikTok with kids in the big 2025? It’s now probably the most dominated social platform next to IG that all ages except maybe old Gen X and boomers are on.
Im not associating it in an exclusive way but that is the social media that reaches the new generations and is what coincided with Tyler’s new level of fame. He reached a younger audience than ever with chromakopia
- Dec 12, 2025
this is more hip hop than joey badass making dad rap. the greta van fleet of rap. Flatbush Zombies and the Underachievers were pushing NYC rap forwards. Joey was holding it back.
meanwhile joey was whining about lil b or something.
bmass 🇵🇭Dec 12, 2025Troy Ave StanWhole industry use ghost writers, yall think labels really investing millions on artist to let them write some bs song lol
