OP just turned 30

carti is by far the greatest rapper of the 2020s but he can't carry this s*** alone

what metrics are you using to come up with this dumbass opinion

Been saying this for a while. A lot of iconic rappers that debuted in the 90s and 2000s were in their late teens of very early twenties.

Hov and ye dropped their debut when they were 26 and that was considered a late start back then but pretty common for the 2010s. And now the late 20s-early 30s are common for 2020 artists.

Because being an artists alone isnt the most viable career choice, so most are going through colleges or finding trades to finance their career or to have a backup plan

Idk about the verse as it pertains to OP’s hypothetical question, but in regards to evaluating newer talent against their predecessors: these new niggas just don’t have it. Not a single one of them.

And so, these old niggas can take advantage of this mentally handicapped generation’s lack of superstars to artificially extend their careers.

thank god you out real discussion can begin

Lots of innovation comes from younger minds I agree and what I said never disputed that. That doesnt mean the music is regressing though. You could argue it has plataeud but I dont see a regression.

But despite this my feeling is that I dont think there is an issue. Everything in life happens at later ages now. OP gave the example of when people have children. My guess is that this is a side effect of longer life spans and we will get the next set of popular rappers being in their late 20s and early 30s. So your example of Carti being in his early 30s isnt actually an issue

On the other hand though genres dip in popularity and eventually it will happen to rap. Maybe a dip is on the horizon.

this argument has happened in music sxn every day since the beginning of time. the old out of touch jaded past their prime uncs vz the optimistic modernists

Idk if i can flat out say he’s the greatest but he’s definitely up there. No idea why they are acting like what you said is crazy.

I just hate that bro took a 5 year break. We were eating off leaks and snippets bruh

yea this site has turned on carti, s***'s corny af

yes if he meant that the collective maturity of society has been arrested or even reversed, which he didn’t

he’s been coping about being old forever

it’s not corny, in the OP is f***ing Jay-Z. I been on this energy about Carti since he pivoted to WLR and niggas ate that s*** up for being different from what was happening in the rest of rap

you keep naming Carti because he was able to master a sound for the new generation of white kids but severely deteriorated any discernible lyrical quality from the music…it’s why them Dot features don’t really hit longterm cause Dot actually tryna show Carti how to make a real song…Weeknd too. that nigga don’t make actual songs anymore like that, it’s a repetitive drone that’s carried by the fact it’s a “new” sound so it clouds the fact that outside of that new sound, it’s not really innovating much. where the new flows? where the actual qualities showing themselves in other talented rappers? he took the rage fest part of Travis dark sound, took Future’s cadences/flows/voice and put a baby/deep voice on it, went back to punk rock era shows, and mashed the two sounds together to get what he have today you calling innovation.

you telling me Yeat, Ken, Lone, and Osamason are the future? cut that s*** out gang

You can’t just say it’s white kids. Carti probably has one of the most diverse fanbases of any rapper

"it’s why them Dot features don’t really hit longterm cause Dot actually tryna show Carti how to make a real song"

you can't be serious, this some crazy cope

S*** is crazy. He did some adlibs and laid a verse and that’s showing Carti how to make a song

lmk when Carti was making a song like back door until Dot walked into the studio or Timeless or any other songs he lets major artists carry him on that he couldn’t do himself that are more or less not even near his “innovation”

Do you think he's the first person to ever say that

Back door is a cool song but it’s probably C tier in the grand scheme of Carti’s discography

“my b**** so bad, she can’t even go outside. my b**** so bad, she can’t even post online. don’t say you’ll ride for me, lil b**** just ride. don’t say you’ll die for me, lil b**** just die”

for 2 1/2 minutes. innovation. nigga ending his show with that bullshit too. man ya’ll got it bro

niggas got tiers for music they listen to that white boy influence knows no barriers

Also bruh @valentine

Back door was already made before Kendrick added his vocals

How is that white boy influence? lol

That’s just saying the song is middle of the pack