I would agree with the first part, my claim isn’t that they are skilled rappers really, part of the point is that they aren’t perceived as traditionally skilled rappers. And I’d say a good amount of newer artists including most in the OP show explicit vulnerability and talk about real s*** in their lives, not just some vague type of vulnerability.
Well, they just not taken seriously, because their skills alone is not anything to go home about.
Stop calling grown men babes and chill with the condescending tone, it’s giving elitist. you clearly didn’t catch I was calling you white so check your hiphop white pain and this s***ty substance thread at the door
salute lmao
I’m not white babes and if it threatens ur masculinity that’s not my problem I’ll condescend you all I want once ur saying homophobic s***, erasing my identity as a Palestinian, and wishing STDs upon me over some music discussion. I’d consider that way worse.
Add on: New gen but they still sound like the artists of their time.
There’s a core separation of new artists that obviously blew up in their late 20s and early 30s that wear their influences and the teeny “rAgE” kids that wear their influences.
$ilkmoney, veeze, and kenny mason are “new gen” rappers but their sound is more aligned with millennials than young rappers.
P.s. And you look goofy automatically disregarding black people’s reasonable dismissal of white hip hop (yeat is white passing dawg) artists but you have questionable takes on race/social issues in the past so that is par for the course.
I’m not white babes and if it threatens ur masculinity that’s not my problem I’ll condescend you all I want once ur saying homophobic s***, erasing my identity as a Palestinian, and wishing STDs upon me over some music discussion. I’d consider that way worse.
yall killing me this morning
Well, they just not taken seriously, because their skills alone is not anything to go home about.
If you don’t take earnest art seriously because they don’t have good enough technical rap skill for it that’s you though I think your missing out on a lot of great music and touching real art imo
the thread didn’t include people like MIKE cuz of the first sentence man that’s the whole point this don’t even apply for someone like veeze tbh. I could tell you newer artists that fit that criteria too if you’d like
If you don’t take earnest art seriously because they don’t have good enough technical rap skill for it that’s you though I think your missing out on a lot of great music and touching real art imo
the thread didn’t include people like MIKE cuz of the first sentence man that’s the whole point this don’t even apply for someone like veeze tbh. I could tell you newer artists that fit that criteria too if you’d like
None of these niggas have touching art, it's surface level vulnerability.
Why do you niggas do this?
None of these niggas have touching art, it's surface level vulnerability.
Why do you niggas do this?
2093, Nino paid, lil Tony, untiljapan, fakemink, Veeze, 454, jim legxacy all make incredibly touching art I wouldn’t call it surface level vulnerability. All music is art I don’t say art in terms of a high art low art sense. That s*** can really help someone go through something or relate to man
agree with some of those artists.. others
Oh yeah like Che or osamason isn’t overall a vulnerable or lyrically substantive artist don’t get me wrong not at ALL, the point of including those is to say that even at that level of extreme, they have vulnerable moments of real pain
None of these niggas have touching art, it's surface level vulnerability.
Why do you niggas do this?
454 is pretty vulnerable
for such a “big” rapper yeat fans sure do love to force an agenda instead of just…hmm enjoy the s***.
Oh yeah like Che or osamason isn’t overall a vulnerable or lyrically substantive artist don’t get me wrong not at ALL, the point of including those is to say that even at that level of extreme, they have vulnerable moments of real pain
So you was nitpicking.
And then wonder why folks dont vibe with the thread lol.
I’m not white babes and if it threatens ur masculinity that’s not my problem I’ll condescend you all I want once ur saying homophobic s***, erasing my identity as a Palestinian, and wishing STDs upon me over some music discussion. I’d consider that way worse.
erasing my identity
bruh get these niggas out of hiphop goddamn
So you was nitpicking.
And then wonder why folks dont vibe with the thread lol.
Yall are so bad faith and hateful annoying human beings it’s crazy
I said those specific artists were picked out for the purpose I said dawg. I included A DOZEN OTHERS and in the first SENTENCE I say it’s about people you wouldn’t EXPECT it from or aren’t branded that way
erasing my identity
bruh get these niggas out of hiphop goddamn
Dawg talking like a trump supporter using Zionist and homophobic talking points over a thread about music discussion just turn off ur laptop G
bruh punching the keyboard thinking I’m erasing his identity cause I don’t like Nettspend heroin raps and called him white creatively
bruh punching the keyboard thinking I’m erasing his identity cause I don’t like Nettspend heroin raps and called him white creatively
Nope I say that for you dismissing me a Palestinian as a white man ?
Like No s*** sherlock folks like 454, jim legxacy, and veeze get their respect on here.
Bruh acting like ktt wasnt calling ganger the album of the year. But no, you really just used this thread to push an agenda and that’s why valentine clowned you like he did.
It’s not genuine.
Dawg talking like a trump supporter using Zionist and homophobic talking points over a thread about music discussion just turn off ur laptop G
-literally was talking zionist points in the thread concerning israel relations
Nope I say that for you dismissing me a Palestinian as a white man ?
you took a bar and turned into identity erasure
bruh you wouldn’t survive a roast circle, how you even in hiphop lmfaooo
Yall are so bad faith and hateful annoying human beings it’s crazy
I said those specific artists were picked out for the purpose I said dawg. I included A DOZEN OTHERS and in the first SENTENCE I say it’s about people you wouldn’t EXPECT it from or aren’t branded that way
I expect most humans to have thoughts of clarity, you can find carti lyrics that are “sUbsTaNtiAl” too.
Hooray.
Do you want me to give these niggas a cookie?
2093, Nino paid, lil Tony, untiljapan, fakemink, Veeze, 454, jim legxacy all make incredibly touching art I wouldn’t call it surface level vulnerability. All music is art I don’t say art in terms of a high art low art sense. That s*** can really help someone go through something or relate to man
You trying to reinforce these artists, but they're really not that touching.
They can get heartfelt on a track...ok.
Can they at least tell a story through an album? Oh wait....they can't.
Because they selling surface level vulnerability.
You trying to reinforce these artists, but they're really not that touching.
They can get heartfelt on a track...ok.
Can they at least tell a story through an album? Oh wait....they can't.
Because they selling surface level vulnerability.
/thread
Oh yeah like Che or osamason isn’t overall a vulnerable or lyrically substantive artist don’t get me wrong not at ALL, the point of including those is to say that even at that level of extreme, they have vulnerable moments of real pain
i just wouldnt say its necessarily good imo but ig theyre at least doing it