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  • Aug 14, 2025
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    Kee

    You trying to reinforce these artists, but they're really not that touching.

    They can get heartfelt on a track...ok.

    Can they at least tell a story through an album? Oh wait....they can't.

    Because they selling surface level vulnerability.

    Quite literally one of the Nino paid songs I linked is called joeys story and is a linear story.
    I don’t think lyrics have to be stories to be vulnerable or touching.

  • Aug 14, 2025
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    When you hit 27 and that pre frontal cortex is finished evolving like Pokemon you gonna understand lil bro.

  • Aug 14, 2025
    BrainWorms4U

    i just wouldnt say its necessarily good imo but ig theyre at least doing it

    Fair enough differing tastes ofc!

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    When you hit 27 and that pre frontal cortex is finished evolving like Pokemon you gonna understand lil bro.

    Dawg you over 27 co-signing telling a gay man go catch an std and branding Palestinians to be just white people because you don’t like agree about some music being touching I think you seriously needa take a look at how high and mighty you see yourself and if it’s accurate if I’m the child mentally why are yall the ones personally attacking someone’s identity for a music opinion as the fully developed adults then?? That’s so weeeirddddd

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    Andre Jaquet

    Quite literally one of the Nino paid songs I linked is called joeys story and is a linear story.
    I don’t think lyrics have to be stories to be vulnerable or touching.

    1 song =/= a whole album.

    If you can't give a whole album narrative surrounding your life, and you can only do it with 1 song, then you selling surface level vulnerability.

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    Kee

    1 song =/= a whole album.

    If you can't give a whole album narrative surrounding your life, and you can only do it with 1 song, then you selling surface level vulnerability.

    Ok so the only real vulnerability is if it’s in the album format and it’s a concept album with traditional storytelling throughout?

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    Dawg you over 27 co-signing telling a gay man go catch an std and branding Palestinians to be just white people because you don’t like agree about some music being touching I think you seriously needa take a look at how high and mighty you see yourself and if it’s accurate if I’m the child mentally why are yall the ones personally attacking someone’s identity for a music opinion as the fully developed adults then?? That’s so weeeirddddd

    claiming “he wants me to have AIDS” from an insult calling you white and soft (which doesnt mean gay, sounds like you automatically equaling gay with soft ) is a halo reach and you know it.

    I say non-black, but you twisting somebody words is a white move

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    insertcoolnamehere

    claiming “he wants me to have AIDS” from an insult calling you white and soft (which doesnt mean gay, sounds like you automatically equaling gay with soft ) is a halo reach and you know it.

    I say non-black, but you twisting somebody words is a white move

    Uh no I base this off me telling yall im gay living in a country im persecuted in earlier and him specifically saying to literally take my ass somewhere and catch something. Straight people typically don’t catch anything from hopping their butt somewhere. And yes it’s incredibly disrespectful and harmful to whitewash a Palestinians heritage over some music opinions. I’m not white dawg, I’m Arab and white poeple are literally genociding my people. I have pride about this considering I’m
    Persecuted for my sexuality and nonstop take care of people in my family persecuted for their heritage. I’ve told valentine specifically both these facts before mind you. If your this intelligent measured developed man you should have the temperament to talk about music without personally attacking people in a nasty way.

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    Andre Jaquet

    Ok so the only real vulnerability is if it’s in the album format and it’s a concept album with traditional storytelling throughout?

    The real vulnerability is if the artist is able to convey a thought throughout the album that shows the listener that the man behind the mic is someone that has real emotions and feelings and hopes and dreams and not just someone following a template (mad fans of your artists in @op including users like @Nikedufflebag say a lot of these young artists aren't even "real geekers" so where does the truth lie?)

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    insertcoolnamehere

    The real vulnerability is if the artist is able to convey a thought throughout the album that shows the listener that the man behind the mic is someone that has real emotions and feelings and hopes and dreams and not just someone following a template (mad fans of your artists in @op including users like @Nikedufflebag say a lot of these young artists aren't even "real geekers" so where does the truth lie?)

    So many rappers we love play up their story for a rap image/character.

    Carti, Drake, Rick Ross, etc. I know Sahbabii isn’t actually street but that doesn’t mean his music doesn’t hold value

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    Andre Jaquet

    Uh no I base this off me telling yall im gay living in a country im persecuted in earlier and him specifically saying to literally take my ass somewhere and catch something. Straight people typically don’t catch anything from hopping their butt somewhere. And yes it’s incredibly disrespectful and harmful to whitewash a Palestinians heritage over some music opinions. I’m not white dawg, I’m Arab and white poeple are literally genociding my people. I have pride about this considering I’m
    Persecuted for my sexuality and nonstop take care of people in my family persecuted for their heritage. I’ve told valentine specifically both these facts before mind you. If your this intelligent measured developed man you should have the temperament to talk about music without personally attacking people in a nasty way.

    This 180 from you literally telling Snowboy a couple months ago how she felt about the genocide was wrong and “wanting a neutral zone” is why you just full of s***.

    I just think you give bad takes in general cause you have a very naive outlook on the world at large. And I dont defend any homophobia (ask val i go off on him all the time) but all I saw was a roast responding to you calling him a bigot for not acknowledging white artists in a black genre (and you was slick for mentioning beastie boys like hip hop wasnt a decade old by that point)

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    Free YoungBoy

    So many rappers we love play up their story for a rap image/character.

    Carti, Drake, Rick Ross, etc. I know Sahbabii isn’t actually street but that doesn’t mean his music doesn’t hold value

    When Drake talks about his family I believe that s*** the mob stuff I think is silly.

    Everyone else you named hold no emotional weight to me as a listener

  • Aug 14, 2025

    I heard grief is love in a thunderstorm
    and death is really nothing different from the norm
    and everybody at the end get what's coming to em
    even god got some loving or an oven for em
    and if we isn't on the same flight on the same night
    I'ma wait, sit around and hang tight
    until the day we become the same height

    Writing matters.

  • Aug 14, 2025
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    insertcoolnamehere

    When Drake talks about his family I believe that s*** the mob stuff I think is silly.

    Everyone else you named hold no emotional weight to me as a listener

    Lemme ask you this, what’s your take on Dave Blunts?

  • Aug 14, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    Lemme ask you this, what’s your take on Dave Blunts?

    Phony as hell. Not a fan. Has some funny one liners tho

  • Aug 14, 2025
    Andre Jaquet

    Ok so the only real vulnerability is if it’s in the album format and it’s a concept album with traditional storytelling throughout?

    Duhhhh.

    Reason why rappers like 2Pac are so loved is that they also told their whole life story through an album format.

    Me Against the World is a huge example of this.

    Yes, they had songs where they just want to show off their skills, bragging, and made party records.

    But overall, it's authentic.

    The artists you named are the complete opposite of that, where it's only rare few moments they show vulnerability, and it's very superficial.

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Aug 14, 2025

    Drake influence fr

  • Aug 14, 2025
    insertcoolnamehere

    Phony as hell. Not a fan. Has some funny one liners tho

    What makes him phony in your eyes? Hes one of the only honest rappers

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
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    Dawg you over 27 co-signing telling a gay man go catch an std and branding Palestinians to be just white people because you don’t like agree about some music being touching I think you seriously needa take a look at how high and mighty you see yourself and if it’s accurate if I’m the child mentally why are yall the ones personally attacking someone’s identity for a music opinion as the fully developed adults then?? That’s so weeeirddddd

    bruh you STILL hanging on to that bar

    I called you white and soft…cause tissue is white and you were tryna get me to a***yze white pain which is weak

    holy s***

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    This 180 from you literally telling Snowboy a couple months ago how she felt about the genocide was wrong and “wanting a neutral zone” is why you just full of s***.

    I just think you give bad takes in general cause you have a very naive outlook on the world at large. And I dont defend any homophobia (ask val i go off on him all the time) but all I saw was a roast responding to you calling him a bigot for not acknowledging white artists in a black genre (and you was slick for mentioning beastie boys like hip hop wasnt a decade old by that point)

    I disagreed with val as two Arabs having a conversation? And that wouldn’t absolve anything said to me and it wouldn’t still be s***ty and disgusting? He said it was a double entendre, that’s not a roast session dawg that’s disgusting. My take on what would be the best solution for Palestine Israel that guranteed the most safety for the most people does not have any relevance.

    Btw I said either a two state solution or a one state solution managed by a third party destroying both the current Israel government and Hamas with palestinian representation right of return and removing Israeli birthright was what I thought to be the best solution and I thought Sally’s ideas were harmful and unproductive. You can think that’s not a good solution that’s up to you and not what I’m
    Here for rn that was literally months ago. I’m not about to have a discussion about Palestine on a music discussion thread, it shouldn’t be that hard to treat people you disagree with with dignity and condemn homophobia and personal attacks on my heritage two things that I’ve and my family get persecuted for daily.

    And yes it was10 years after, my point was if ur gonna invalidate everything else off a one white artist existing, then hip hop been ass since beastie boys to point out how ridiculous that is.

    If your ready to talk about something of substance go off otherwise take some anger management classes and engage in ideas about MUSIC without insulting people

  • Aug 14, 2025
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    Valentine

    bruh you STILL hanging on to that bar

    I called you white and soft…cause tissue is white and you were tryna get me to a***yze white pain which is weak

    holy s***

    yeah telling a Palestinian gay guy to put his white ass in some diapers and go catch something as a “double entendre” doesn’t imply anything and is totally fine, sure dawg. Just stop.

  • Aug 14, 2025
    Bobby_96
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OVwGVUcptE

    classic sketch but 2nd beat better tho

  • Aug 14, 2025
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    Andre Jaquet

    yeah telling a Palestinian gay guy to put his white ass in some diapers and go catch something as a “double entendre” doesn’t imply anything and is totally fine, sure dawg. Just stop.

    I said take your charmin ultra soft ass on somewhere

    clearly you can’t even understand how I speak or how to a***yze a bar/joke, so why would I continue discussing hiphop with you if you just tryna turn it into this weird ass struggle Olympics?

    I’m literally a black man in America

    sorry bout all that? Free Palestine

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