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  • Not BilI Ackman

    I RARELY see officers regularly inside subway stations other than 42 Times Square and 34 PennSt/Herald Sq stations lol

    There was a whole ass army in the WTC oculus station last time i was there for obvious reasons 😂

    But yeah other than those ive rarely seen them as well

  • Apr 12, 2022
    Not BilI Ackman

    Marginalized communities =/= TRAIN 🚂 STATIONS 🚉

    I put the emojis so you could better understand

    that's right.

    cause marginalized communities don't ever use train stations.

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    krishna bound

    this is gonna be the last time i say it in this thread but the NYPD literally cannot legally do anything. they are a completely useless agency because laws have been passed over the years because of the backlash of how they handled the 90s crimewave and now they are a lame duck organization. they can legitimately only legally do something after a crime has alerady happened, they can't even intervene. so yeah, they are completely useless, but it's not for the reason people think it is.

    i don’t know much about NYPD so why do they get so much funding then?

  • Apr 12, 2022
    Not BilI Ackman

    Marginalized communities =/= TRAIN 🚂 STATIONS 🚉

    I put the emojis so you could better understand

    Do you think train stations float in the ether?

  • Apr 12, 2022

    Yo I was stop away from when this happened this morning

    Just got home because trains were shut down and I couldn’t make it to work, I said f*** it and went home

  • Apr 12, 2022
    Rockstard

    Which I think is some people's point itt, that throwing money and cops at the problem won't fix it

    I agree, but the issue is that money is a complete non-sequitur, removing that money or changing the amount of police doesn't really have any correlation to crime. You need to rework what legal boundaries the organization can act within for them for them to be effective, no matter if it's a $1 budget of a $1B budget. currently they could do the same thing on $1 as they could on their current budget because they have no purpose

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Osey

    this is wrong, they've done plenty

    they just haven't done anything good

    They’ve barely done anything. Experience on the train in July of last year and today is nearly identical. The only thing they did was add the “Please stand back from the edge until the train has arrived at the station” announcement which plays like 3x in a row. That’s the only noticeable difference.

  • Apr 12, 2022

    Prayers to the victims damn man way too much craziness going on as of late

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    I’m kinda interested to see what would happen if we took police out of every subway station/platform in NYC

    Like how many more robberies, sexual assaults, shootings, etc would need to occur than normal for people to be like “hmmm that didn’t quite work”

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Not BilI Ackman

    They’ve barely done anything. Experience on the train in July of last year and today is nearly identical. The only thing they did was add the “Please stand back from the edge until the train has arrived at the station” announcement which plays like 3x in a row. That’s the only noticeable difference.

    hope this helps

    nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-nypd-budget-subway-sleeping-20220318-wrbvdffowrbkbnwg5voi5f47xe-story.html

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    krishna bound

    this is gonna be the last time i say it in this thread but the NYPD literally cannot legally do anything. they are a completely useless agency because laws have been passed over the years because of the backlash of how they handled the 90s crimewave and now they are a lame duck organization. they can legitimately only legally do something after a crime has alerady happened, they can't even intervene. so yeah, they are completely useless, but it's not for the reason people think it is.

    Bro someone is gonna be less likely to randomly push an old lady down the stairs or shoving a woman into an oncoming train if police officers are literally standing right there

    If nothing else at least they’ll be apprehended immediately

    In what way does having officers on the platform hurt? If you can’t answer that then there’s no real reason for them not to be there. It just makes sense

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Never ceases to amaze me how yall manage to make anything a debate

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Damn, y'all didn't even wait till page 10 to have the "we should have done this to prevent it" discussion.

    We skipping past the reporting and prayers.

    Idk if I like the efficiency lol

  • Apr 12, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    i don’t know much about NYPD so why do they get so much funding then?

    because the US is assbackwards and different segments of governemnt control different things. The same people passing the laws aren't the people making the budgets. So some people want more budget because they think money = less crime so they aprpove giving more budget, but then others pass laws restricting what they can do with that budget. Then years apss and those laws can't be repealed so then you end up with a useless bureaucracy. This isn't just in cops, it happens in every public sector.

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Jihyo

    Bro someone is gonna be less likely to randomly push an old lady down the stairs or shoving a woman into an oncoming train if police officers are literally standing right there

    If nothing else at least they’ll be apprehended immediately

    In what way does having officers on the platform hurt? If you can’t answer that then there’s no real reason for them not to be there. It just makes sense

    Are they? Especially in new york

  • Oxnard

    I’m kinda interested to see what would happen if we took police out of every subway station/platform in NYC

    Like how many more robberies, sexual assaults, shootings, etc would need to occur than normal for people to be like “hmmm that didn’t quite work”

    It would be absolute insanity. I had to travel out to Long Island a few times during the pandemic while they were still building the Moynihan train hall. Penn Station was a ghost town and was literally witnessing assaults take place on a regular basis with nobody there to do anything about it

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Not BilI Ackman

    This includes long island / jc / Hoboken which are essentially NYC metro areas

    trust me i know where these places are. i live in nyc.

    i do not feel like referencing the greater metro areas population in this comparison is valid as none of the places you mentioned use the MTA

    young fashioned only used those numbers to make his argument more compelling.

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Jody

    Never ceases to amaze me how yall manage to make anything a debate

    what else would the discussion about this event be?

  • Apr 12, 2022
    Osey

    what else would the discussion about this event be?

    Thots & prayers

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    How u want less cops at a station.. yall must live on the internet and far away from nyc lol

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    ragedsycokiller

    Damn, y'all didn't even wait till page 10 to have the "we should have done this to prevent it" discussion.

    We skipping past the reporting and prayers.

    Idk if I like the efficiency lol

    how efficient is prayers my guy

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Osey

    what else would the discussion about this event be?

    Idk I wouldnt expect law enforcement funding tho
    Who did this, why

  • Apr 12, 2022
    Jody

    Never ceases to amaze me how yall manage to make anything a debate

    This is literally relevant to the issue at hand

  • Apr 12, 2022
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    Anyone has info on what happened? I know it was a shooting, but I don’t know much because I was trying to get home

    Was literally stop away from that station when s*** went down tf

    S*** hit close to home

  • Osey

    how efficient is prayers my guy

    That's what I'm saying lol. Now that we're past that point, idk how I feel about it

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