The thing is I don’t even think Tyler would have much of a problem even doing that, I think the problem is Tyler needs to directly acknowledge the change and why he was ever like that.
I think Tyler has acknowledged that OF was crazy, he said offensive things, and he isn’t on that anymore as many times as he can. I think people want a deeper conversation where he says directly the way he interacted with black culture at times was off and sent the wrong message, which again I don’t think is a bad request at all. But people need to be more in depth about what they even want from him instead of recycling the same talking points that have already been addressed and on Tyler’s end its cool hes changed but I think he only highlights the change and could have a much deeper discussion if he highlighted what he changed from and why he felt the need to make that change
I also think it can be hard to acknowledge with Tyler because I think he looks at a public conversation like that as someone trying to like finger wag at him to apologize and he does not like that s*** lol
I don’t think I knew a single black adult that was an Eminem fan when I was growing up tbh but maybe thats just my personal experience lol
I know obviously he has black fans I was a big eminem fan as a kid but yeah maybe its a certain type of black person who feels that way
in NYC he had tons of black fans in the 2000s up until Recovery. You couldn’t say s*** about Em until like 2013 honestly.
Idk bro, the average black young gen x/older millenials still think this guy is the GOAT of rap.
Definitely not the average. Like Mr get dough said there’s a certain type of black fan that considers Eminem the goat and that fan was definitely not discriminating against tyler for being edgy
S/O to the Cree Summers/Myke C Town's/Tyler's/Gambino's, they helped a lot of niggas feel seen
Lil Jon was always an unusual outlier though, this nigga gets universal respect but he a nigga who be skateboarding and listen to white punk music etc. Usually it wouldn't fly with some people but somehow he manage to get universal love
He's like Q-Tip, the kind of person who openly embraces all scenes so they manage to blur the lines. Q-Tip reps the backpacks and the street niggas equally
in NYC he had tons of black fans in the 2000s up until Recovery. You couldn’t say s*** about Em until like 2013 honestly.
I guess I gotta take ur word for it bc im not from there but I feel like hella black NYC niggas dont fw eminem
It is what it is, at least Tyler's fanbase actually buys his music. Every time he drops he moves units, he could be goin out like Logic or someone
I hate whenever Tyler collabs with a more street based artist because he’s actually a fan of them, his fans either say we don’t want to hear it or they try and act like the only reason they sound good is because of Tyler
They did it with Maxo Kream, YB, Sexyy Red, 42 Dugg etc
Bro i hate all the white people saying s*** like
"First good YB verse" or "i dont listen to YB but he sounds good on this" people
I also think it can be hard to acknowledge with Tyler because I think he looks at a public conversation like that as someone trying to like finger wag at him to apologize and he does not like that s*** lol
Tyler is not innocent in this
There are most definitely valid critiques about him, even though I do think at times people overdo it and even though I think he’s taken more accountability than he gets credit for theres still a lot of room for a deeper conversation on it
I don’t mind the discourse I just don’t like how lazy it is. Lets actually have the conversation if we’re going to have it and lets stop repeating talking points that have been addressed and go deeper
I hate whenever Tyler collabs with a more street based artist because he’s actually a fan of them, his fans either say we don’t want to hear it or they try and act like the only reason they sound good is because of Tyler
They did it with Maxo Kream, YB, Sexyy Red, 42 Dugg etc
When they were hating on DJ drama being on cmiygl
I’d actually love for him to deep dive on this in general. I would love for a journalist to ask him about this in the next interview but I just don’t know who would do that at this point.
tbh it has to be black woman.
Like idk I find it lazy
Acting like its a new revelation that Tyler feels this way about his fanbase makes me feel like you haven’t been paying much attention to a topic you’re discussing because Tyler has been open about feeling this way about his fanbase for at least 5 years lol
When they were hating on DJ drama being on cmiygl
Carti fans did the same s*** hating on swamp izzo
Like idk I find it lazy
Acting like its a new revelation that Tyler feels this way about his fanbase makes me feel like you haven’t been paying much attention to a topic you’re discussing because Tyler has been open about feeling this way about his fanbase for at least 5 years lol
Nate Turner would be so proud of me
I think in earl’s case it helped that he only really had one edgy album as opposed to like 2-3 and he was away for a good portion of of blowing up
Is this real
Also Earl never did this @Mitchell lol
Is this real
Yes
I remember this s*** so vividly. Hands down the worst thing Tyler has ever done it was like 2013 too he was already famous
Is this real
Yep he actually had a falling out with Syd and Matt over this. He also used to sell snapbacks with the n-word on it that white kids actually wore.
Is this real
Yeah it was ~2012
Tyler is not innocent in this
There are most definitely valid critiques about him, even though I do think at times people overdo it and even though I think he’s taken more accountability than he gets credit for theres still a lot of room for a deeper conversation on it
I don’t mind the discourse I just don’t like how lazy it is. Lets actually have the conversation if we’re going to have it and lets stop repeating talking points that have been addressed and go deeper
Nothing about that said Tyler was innocent lol
Im just saying its hard to get him to go deeper in addressing it in public because I think no matter how well meaning the conversation he’s going to resist when he feels like someone is putting too much pressure on addressing and owning up to the old stuff