Apr 5No i do not want to listen to whatever the F*** dj megan23 is
Apr 5·1 replywhat does this even mean
dumb ass question
OPApr 5
ClassiqueAlso as far as listening stalling they’ll push out a song upon release then stop if it doesn’t get a certain amount of traffic like the tiktok 300 views thing
Yea the algo pushes certain songs for a bit then it dies off
But if the song is fye ud expect people to come back to the song. Based on the numbers i see thats pretty rare
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Bernie XI notice the opposite where people d***ride any random new guy and call them goated to seem like they “know ball”
Hmm yea depends on who ur talkin to maybe cus i feel like most people arent that invested. I also feel like when it comes to new artists usually they gotta have that cool factor i.e. being around certain ppl to get popular
- OPApr 5fakerickhoodie
what does this even mean
dumb ass question
How is this hard to follow
Apr 5they just dgaf
- OPApr 5
Myb i meant to give this thread more love but i been busy all day
Apr 5I don’t listen to anyone with less than 100M monthly Spotify listeners
Apr 5·1 replyThere’s too much good music now for people to care about it unless they have an it factor of some sort, or a little clout going already
- OPApr 5·1 reply
u ok jayi think people who don't like small artists often times just aren't big enough fans of music to spend a lot of time listening to niche stuff. like how someone who isn't huge into physical art wouldn't know niche painters or spend their time learning about them. i think it's alright to not consume all media
So my experience comes from soundcloud, i think most soundcloud users especially those winding up on low play songs are probably into music, i dont think what im describing only applies to non music fans
- OPApr 5
whippet volversePeople have always needed more than talent and musical skill to attach to artists for the long term. People want to believe that they’re experiencing a story and some type of narrative has to exist. That’s why branding and image and marketing matter. Even a group as talented as the Jackson 5 had to be sold to the masses that they were “discovered by Diana Ross” and they even had to attach her to their debut album as “Diana Ross Presents: The Jackson 5”.
The Beach Boys were consciously rebranded from teens who love to surf and go to the beach to the brainchild of the “musical genius Brian Wilson” who was the American a***ogue to a Paul McCartney or John Lennon, played as being in competition with the Beatles.
(I love Brian, he was a GOAT, but that’s besides the point)
And even with underground rappers nowadays that are all basically doing variations of the same sounds, diet Uzi, Dollar Tree Carti, ThuggerZero, Future Lite, but they have the image and branding of something “experimental” so their fanbases feel they’re experiencing something New.
It’s f***ed up but that’s what it is. Most of the people who genuinely seek out new musicians to listen to and are really going to follow them for more than a couple days, listen to more than one song, are probably musicians themselves, or at least in the industry.Big facts this is what i think, people only rly can get into an artist if they feel like the know the artist and resonate with what the artist represents
Which is sad cus none of that has anything to do with music talent
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processordo you hate me op? why do you hate me?
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- OPApr 5dove
There’s too much good music now for people to care about it unless they have an it factor of some sort, or a little clout going already
Bingo
- OPApr 5·2 replies
This thread is my attempt to basically say the fans are the issue with modern music not the artists
Apr 5·1 replyya mama an unknown artist
Apr 5ya they make me sick to my stomach
- Apr 5·2 repliesZoid eve
This thread is my attempt to basically say the fans are the issue with modern music not the artists
eh I wouldn’t put it all on the consumer although you got a point
its just that for the first time in human history we got this thing call algorithms within computers in our pocket, and its so much s*** that it sort of fragments the collective attention span. 
Apr 5Yeah this is why people be botting streams and views
Apr 6·1 replyThere are lesser known artist I like and listen to . But where am I going to discuss them ? But wholly a lot of recent music just dissapoints me or the artist don’t tour
- Apr 6BIRTH CERTIFICATE
eh I wouldn’t put it all on the consumer although you got a point
its just that for the first time in human history we got this thing call algorithms within computers in our pocket, and its so much s*** that it sort of fragments the collective attention span.Also this
Apr 6Music is outdated
- Apr 6·1 replyZoid eve
This thread is my attempt to basically say the fans are the issue with modern music not the artists
but if we are in agreement that this sort of mentality has always existed, then how can we blame the consumer?
they've never really had the ball in their court of choosing what artist they like, or had to necessarily go out of their way to find artists in any pre-internet era.
it's always been, you get in where you fit in. there's a reason why we have 'gateway' / entry level artists that will typically introduce the mainstream audience to their subgenre or niche, and typically is the entry point for certain fans to dive into it deeper and discover the hidden gems, if they CHOOSE to.
but that's not the norm nor should artists or people expect that. at least that's how I feel.
think about it like this: How'd most people discover their favorite food or restaurant? They probably passively grew up with it, were exposed to it at some point and liked it, or were out and about and heard about it.
- OPApr 6BIRTH CERTIFICATE
eh I wouldn’t put it all on the consumer although you got a point
its just that for the first time in human history we got this thing call algorithms within computers in our pocket, and its so much s*** that it sort of fragments the collective attention span.true
i think the algo tends to make everyone focus on the same few artists tho, thats why u always see these massive trending artists that people mostly never even sought out like 2slimey, yeat, now dudes like bleood etc
- OPApr 6·1 replywhippet volverse
but if we are in agreement that this sort of mentality has always existed, then how can we blame the consumer?
they've never really had the ball in their court of choosing what artist they like, or had to necessarily go out of their way to find artists in any pre-internet era.
it's always been, you get in where you fit in. there's a reason why we have 'gateway' / entry level artists that will typically introduce the mainstream audience to their subgenre or niche, and typically is the entry point for certain fans to dive into it deeper and discover the hidden gems, if they CHOOSE to.
but that's not the norm nor should artists or people expect that. at least that's how I feel.
think about it like this: How'd most people discover their favorite food or restaurant? They probably passively grew up with it, were exposed to it at some point and liked it, or were out and about and heard about it.
cratedigging was a bigger thing before the internet i think, i think people these days just have a very low bandwidth for new artists and im not rly sure why, its almost like the old ktt mentality of spamming creative showcase has become the norm
- OPApr 6·1 replyHaroldsChicken
There are lesser known artist I like and listen to . But where am I going to discuss them ? But wholly a lot of recent music just dissapoints me or the artist don’t tour
i agree with the claim that most of these unknown artists arent rly good enough to warrant a big fanbase but i see a lot of dudes stuck in that middle ground (like @BernieX alluded to before) where they get the exposure but dont retain much fandom or listeners despite often being very good musicians