I always felt like there was a subconscious part of me that never let me fully dive into his s***. The vids from around that time, combined with all the emboldened snooty white kids thinking they can say nigga and wearing his merch put me completely off him. And his rebrand, in a sense, had a stench of phoniness and desperation to me. At least a few years ago. Now, I definitely respect the self awareness he’s shown to display his influences in his music, and how far he’s gotten. But overall I’ll always have a attitude when it comes to him

he really did. this guy used to get on a high horse and mock his peers for “wearing jordans and only using hi-hats” when he himself supposedly knew what chord progressions were. he ping ponged between respecting hip hop to s***ting on it, both sides when it benefitted his capitalistic scum ass.

now he has to remind everyone how much he loves r&b and hiphop with overtly expressive tacky posts that sound ai generated.

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Yup this is exactly what I’m getting at. It does not excuse Tyler’s antics back then at all, but you could tell he was doing it out of spite unfortunately.

I don't even know how I gotta light viral tweet off this s*** honestly

lol nah they certainly were. My brothers who grew up on 90s rap thought that nigga Tyler was satanic and weird for sure.

nah this isn’t fair to say at all.

Tyler still don’t have a better verse than Mike G on Cool

This whole shtick of him hating his white fans would be more believable if he wasn’t consistently dating white men lol

Idk man. I’m Gen Z and the black Eminem fans had a lot of overlap with OF stans. It makes sense cause they’re from his lineage

Nigga shut up

Yall be posting the most random s***

Yeah this is pretty true, chromokopia is by far his most personal and vulnerable album and you don't really see fans of his push it the way they did his other albums. kind of sad really because i think it's probably his best album to date

actually, you see this sort of thing on ktt2 as well .

Basically I’m saying I like to look at production for how it sounds now without taking into account the era it was made

This gets kinda controversial because a lot of classic s*** doesn’t hold up when compared with modern stuff

I think some of Kanye’s production on The Blueprint holds up better than a majority of The College Dropout, Which mostly aged bad

Mad tyler fans rate it the lowest in his modern era lol

It's the peak of the OF era and sadly I wasn't there for it, but from the looks of it, it's a very nostalgic time period.

Yes

As someone that was there, I don’t understand how folks rate that over anything he’s done in the last 8 years personally. Wolf lyrically was still immature and it was extremely bloated imo. Yes there’s some all time tyler gems on there but as a whole it isn’t top 5 tyler at all.

100% true

i honestly feel like this is indicative of how wildly popular rap music has become over the past decade

it absolutely has attracted more normies/casual listeners than it once did. we can also deduce this is due to globalisation (someone on here said that and i agree)

even if you look at the early 2010s, i feel like you had be part of the circle to really know what's going on in rap/music culture

the proliferation of rap superstars has meant rap has become more accessible and that inherently means tyler will attract the fans he does IMO

you ask a rap fan in 2025 if they know who ken carson is they will say yes

if you ask a rap fan in 2025 if they know who wale is they will say no

I’m so sick of mfs trying to be holier than thou regarding this s*** on Twitter (not talking about op strictly Twitter)

2010-2012 was a different time. Not everyone, BUT A LOT of people including black people were parroting the edgelord odd future s***.

I actually did not like a lot of Tyler’s earlier stuff because it made me uncomfortable. I hated Goblin completely. I liked B******. I was like a fresh 18 when I discovered Tyler in 2010. I def parroted some of that edgy s*** but not all of it. Most people did on Twitter. It’s why there is always a very specific time frame that god awful tweets resurface from because odd future normalized it in a sense to just tweet outlandish s***. Then it was acceptable as society did not give a f***. Now it’s not and rightfully so.

I wouldn’t even consider my OF phase that bad all things consider and still cringe at little s*** I was doing. But we are in our 30s now. I can reflect on s*** I did outside of odd future that was unacceptable and cringe. It’s called growth. Most people were not saints back in the day. And yes Tyler is guilty of a lot of s*** that he has to live with like the blackface bs. But I hate everyone acting like they were all 100% innocent if they were fans during that time like they weren’t all quoting tron cat lyrics.

As far as the fans overall. If you’re still acting like a 2011 fan in 2025 there comes a point someone just needs to slap you and say grow up. It’s hard for me to believe that a large part of that specific part of the base still exists because again, most of us are in our 30s or pushing it. But I guess they do unfortunately