Tyler himself was in the Wolf thread while we were waiting for a leak lol

Exactly why i never got into his music it never felt like it was for me in the beginning and seeing him switch up and turn into someone who wants to be taken serious never made sense to me. Its like a thot who gets ran thru then tries to settle down with niggas for relationships. It can't work after what i just seen

Pretty much and him dropping complete ass since flower boy doesn’t help mans a joke

Good point. Like, that content still exists for all to see and, surprise, little idiots are just as attracted to edgelord s*** as they were 15 years ago

Compared to his newer works, I can see the criticism, but I'll be lying if I didn't tell you that somedays I actually want instrumentals inspired by Wolf's production.

It's quirky, but complex. It's silly, but awesome af.

I love it

tbh I don't think addressing it directly will do much. Most of the people I see that are surrounding this drama are people that don't even listen to him or have had their opinions on him in their heads formed already since 2011-2013 and have no sign of changing that despite seeing that he's made the change for years now. What would him addressing it even do for those people?

Somehow Earl navigated this problem with his career better than Tyler. Bino did so as well.

Tyler... Idk why his fanbase moved laterally with the type of people who don't really like hip hop.

Real hip hop nerds to alt bedroom indie rock dorks

There’s so much nuance to this it’s crazy

bc that munyun makes u blind to reality

nigs prob develop such a chip on they shoulder tryna get to that point that they become bitter and jaded at the idea of “admitting their wrongs”

it’s almost like admitting defeat to them, i at least imagine when i think about my own feelings sometimes

i ain’t saying it’s right but yea admitting you was wrong it’s hard

but would make for some hard music

chromakopia was decent but didn’t do anything that felt outside of what he’s shown he’s been capable of doing, lyrically and sonically

he challenged himself i’m not saying he didn’t, but it didn’t felt like it pushed his song past a point that i felt like he hasn’t hit in his last couple of albums

i hope his next one really comes to life i feel like he’s just getting started seriously

that dugg verse was so hard

i don’t like his beats from maxo but damn lemonhead works so f***ing well makes my head spin

Also as far as people saying him addressing his white fans is a new thing he literally has a whole verse about it on this song from early 2011

Yea this is when I had to take a break from Tyler til he dropped flower boy

Tyler really should address this in a meaningful way.

Growing up as a black kid that wants to be cool and funny and accepted is a weird experience and it can easily go left depending on the people around you and it’s even more complicated when it’s making you rich.

Now that we’re kinda swing back around to a “being offensive and edgy is no big deal” era I think a lot of young black men could use some guidance in that area from somebody that actually participated and grew out of that kind of s***.

Feel like it was easier to just grow out of it back then whereas now we have algorithms and monetization literally incentivizing that kind of behavior.

This is nuts

was this for a loiter squad skit or something, geuinely can't even remeber this lmao

If mfs gonna go at Tyler all week let Donald Glover have some smoke too he was fueling up the white boys when I was in highschool

90% of Tyler fans are white people. What a surprise

It's a lot Tyler fans being dishonest about why Black people weren't rocking with him.

It wasn't necessarily the horrorcore lyrics. We've had plenty of rappers who were still popular despite the violent lyrics towards women or lyrics mentioning/praising Satan. Eminem, Geto Boys, Three 6 Mafia, Bone Thugs n Harmony, Tech N9ne, Gravediggaz, and to some degree Wu Tang Clan all exist and got popular off that. S***, we had rappers casually rapping about raping women (pregnant or otherwise) throughout the 90s and 00s and those artists were beloved. Biggie, Pimp C, Eminem, Big Pun, Big L, etc.

What made Black people not rock with Tyler in particular is how there was a clear underlying anti-Blackness behind his music and internet trolling that attracted racists towards him. An air of "I'm not like these other Blacks, I'm better than all these ghetto Blacks" when he'd speak about his contemporaries. The f***in Sambo shirts he was selling. The white nationalist and Nazi imagery he'd use for merch and graphic designs. Also doesn't help that he'd encourage his majority white fans at his shows to say nlgger. Along with attacking other well known and popular Black media spaces and figures. Like son was straight up calling Spike Lee a nlgger unprovoked back in the day

Until he gets honest and acknowledges THAT part of his career, he can't be mad that those are the kinda people who have engaged with his music/career.

Tyler has one of the worst voices for music in general ever, I can’t take anyone serious who thinks he’s actually elite. Like oh he learned to do knockoff Neptunes, great — too bad it sounds like some Cookie Monster s***

As a former OF stan who’s cackling down my TL at these Tyler tweets…I honestly co-sign this. It’s really the best possible outcome